Comments on: White House Denounces Robertson’s Remarks on Sharon

By: ShesTheOne

ShesTheOne — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:54:00 +0000

MIGHTY MOUSE: Very good points and very well taken…thank you!Mark

By: Mighty Mouse

Mighty Mouse — Tue, 10 Jan 2006 00:09:00 +0000

SHESTHEONE: as far as my reference (there was one by another poster) to Robertson/Falwell/Islamists, I specify that they share common territory in one way: they believe America deserves punishment for its immorality, and that when terribly bad things happen to us, it's God. This is simply a logical observation. In fact, they may be a conjunction between the views: Robertson/Falwell may believe God is using the Islamists to punish us, since there are biblical stories of God using Israel's enemies to punish her (with violent attacks) because they were immoral at that moment.

And yes, he does have every right to his opinions, and free speech. However, I believe we need to remember how influential a player he is. He speaks and millions listen - and folks in the Muslim countries believe he speaks in sync with the admin.

As far as FCC - no way. But, I hardly think opposing censorship/government control is a GOP consideration. After all, it's now a federal crime to annoy someone on the Internet. And that's courtesy of the Republicans, signed and sealed by the Prez.

By: ShesTheOne

ShesTheOne — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 02:27:00 +0000

POLITICAL_JUNKIE….very good sexual point! I agree!

By: political_junkie

political_junkie — Mon, 09 Jan 2006 02:12:00 +0000

Artist,

Please don't say cleavage is offensive, not even a little bit. Cleavage is GOOOOOD!!

By: ShesTheOne

ShesTheOne — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:45:00 +0000

All these comments are starting to sound a bit liberal to me. I mean, now there is a suggestion of bringing in the FCC to control our opinions? And comparisons being made that Robertson and Falwell are just like Islamists? Robertson simply shared his biblical worldview about Israel. While I think he is wrong about it, it is still his opinion, and in no way is it a reflection on him being a hateful person. He simply believes that God is active in the lives of His created people, and that He intervenes according to His will. The difference between Robertson and Falwell and Islamists is that Robertson and Falwell believe that there are consequences to actions made, and that God does indeed punish for sins done. Islamists, not all of them, but the ones that I assume you are referring to believe that God punishes, and that it is God’s will that these Islamists are the ones to carry out God’s punishment! It’s a huge difference! I have never heard any report of Robertson or Falwell raping or ordering the rape of anyone. I have yet to hear of either of them murdering anyone. The comment that Robertson made about Chavez was wrong, but even I have to admit to sometimes entertaining those same thoughts. For example, recently in my hometown a woman was raped while walking to her car in a mall parking lot. Yes, I was horrified and angry about it! I even thought to myself that it might be better to not waste time on this thug by applying justice to him that will probably get him only two to five years for something that will stay with this woman forever! I thought in my mind that maybe “a little street justice” on this guy might be better. Now, I did not and would not carry it out. I do not consider myself a hateful person. Actually, I consider myself a loving and compassionate person, and my feelings were based on the concern I had for the victim of the crime. All of that said, I agree with everyone that Robertson’s comments were wrong, even stupid. But I hope that we can keep it in perspective here, and not be like liberals who claim “conspiracies” every time they disagree with something. Robertson is to blame for the comments he made…not the media who covered it, or the many supporters of his program, university, and books. He said it, and he is wrong for it. Let’s follow the example of the White House, and be bigger than this. Denounce the comments made for being wrong.

By: Artist for truth

Artist for truth — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 04:01:00 +0000

If we want to curb immorality, where is the FCC censorship in regards to Pat Robertson? Personally, he offends me more than a little cleavage.

By: Mighty Mouse

Mighty Mouse — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:45:00 +0000

VIKKI: Thanks for the link. That was a good, nicely balanced story. And yes, you are right. Islamists, Robertson and Falwell share common territory when they proclaim God is punishing America for its immorality, lack of religion, stance toward Israel…or as Oriana Fallaci would say, because we wear the bikini, sip Martinis by the side of the pool and sleep with whomever we want to.

By: Vikki

Vikki — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:26:00 +0000

To Mighty Mouse: Thought you might be interested in the following. Personally, Robertson has always made me cringe. Actually, Bin Laden and Robertson have very similar views of God as being only on their side and also as violent, punishing and vengeful.

Anyway, those you note that have supported Robertson thus far do seem to be abandoning the leaky ship.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/08/weekinreview/08goodstein.html

By: ShesTheOne

ShesTheOne — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 01:20:00 +0000

While I agree with a lot of the comments made here, I think it should be noted that the White House denounced the comments of Pat Robertson, and not the person. Robertson was wrong for what he said, and the White House came out strongly to make that clear. Robertson has made a number of statements over the years that are worthy of being denounced by those who disagree, most coming more recently. But disagreeing is not at all the same as disliking, and I think a lot of people recognize that. That’s probably why he has a lot of support in watching his show, attending his university and buying his books. Tammy Bruce stated on her CSPAN appearance that she supported Bush but has a real problem with a lot of his domestic policies. To me, that is keeping perspective. Pat Robertson comes with a very strong biblical worldview, but I do not think he comes with hatred. And I may disagree with his viewpoint, but I can certainly say this: it has challenged me to seek what God thinks about this matter.

By: Mighty Mouse

Mighty Mouse — Sat, 07 Jan 2006 23:35:00 +0000

TLINDAMAN, thanks for your insightful and sincere comments. I've thought about this quite a bit, and have now come to a different conclusion.

Pat Robertson's TV show probably has high ratings or it wouldn't still be on the air. He has a warehouse full of awards. He moves in political campaigns to influence people, some say successfully, as when he did the sleazy phoner vs. John McCain. So therefore, he IS influential, and does speak for probably millions of Christians.

That being the case, media is justified on covering him. There are any number of truly gracious, and impressively insightful theologians who could speak to the press, but they remain in obscure anonymity, satisfied with their work as pastors or theologians at seminaries. No one knocks on their door, because they don't command the hordes PR does. So I no longer fault media for that. (PR is also a cultural phenomenon.)

I fault the Christians who flock to watch PR's show, attend his university, and buy his books.

They are the ones ultimately responsible for his high profile, IMHO.