Tammy Bruce: Liveblogging: Clinton Insists Bin Laden Not Involved in Somalia. Ever.

Liveblogging: Clinton Insists Bin Laden Not Involved in Somalia. Ever.

He insists this now, in the Wallace intv, today in 2006, with all we know, and with the 1998 indictment specifying bin Laden and AQ's involvement in Mogadishu. Wow... "There is not a living soul...or even knew al-Qaida was a going concern in October 93..." And when Wallace notes that bin Laden said our (Clinton's) retreat out of Somalia "showed the weakness of the United States," Clinton says the astounding,

"It would have shown weakness if we left right away, but he [bin Laden] wasn't involved in that, that's just a bunch of bull. That was about Mohammad Aidid, a Muslim warlord, murdering 22 Pakistani Muslim troops...he wasn't a religious fanatatic, there was no al-Qaida.

Fascinating. But don't take it from me. If there is one document Clinton is well aware of when it comes to his administration's understanding of al-Qaida and its history, it would be the Grand Jury Indictment of OBL in 1998, which I have detailed in this post. But just to immediately illustrate how ludicrous this man's statement is about AQ and Somalia, consider these elements from the Indictment itself:

j. At various times from in or about 1992 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, USAMA BIN LADEN and other ranking members of Al Qaeda stated privately to other members of Al Qaeda that the United
States forces stationed in the Horn of Africa, including Somalia, should be attacked;

k. Beginning in or about early spring 1993, Al Qaeda members began to provide training and assistance to Somali tribes opposed to the United Nations intervention in Somalia;

l. On October 3 and 4, 1993, members of Al Qaeda participated with Somali tribesmen in an attack on United States military personnel serving in Somalia as part of Operation Restore Hope, which attack killed a total of 18 United States soldiers and wounded 73 others in Mogadishu;

But there sits Monica's boyfriend, insisting on September 24, 2006 that claims of AQ involvement in Somalia and Blackhawk Down is a bunch of "bull." Could it be that he's on some sort of medication that makes him delusional? This is truly remarkable. His temper is famous, and not just for rhetorical heat. It was difficult not to note the attempt at physical intimidation as well when Bubba leaned over and stabbed at the papers on Wallace's lap. It would have been more than appropriate for Wallace to tell him to either sit back or to stop touching him. But then again, Bill's heard that request far too many times before, I'm sure. Just not from another man.

The FBI didn't "certify" bin Laden as a bad guy in 1999? Then why was he on their Ten Most Wanted List?

Wallace came to interview him under false pretenses? You mean he pledged to pretend to be Monica, and then decided to be a journalist instead?

And here it is, "nobody knew in 1996 that al-Qaida existed" ??????

My god, this man lies as easily as he breathes. Does he think a bunch of us aren't out here in our "pajamas" reminding people of the truth? Amazing.

At :22, Clinton, after a break and now that he has calmed down, is absolutely right about what democracy is and is not--it's more than elections. It's about minority rights, individual rights, etc. This is the only normal thing he has said so far.

:26: Well, this was revealing...Wallace asks about Rove and how Clinton said he was tired of Rove's "b.s." Clinton answers that he's not tired of Rove, after all "I don't blame Karl Rove, if you've got a deal that works, just keep on doin' it." Well, apparently Clinton should know. For him, lying has worked for so long, he just keeps doing it. I'm sure it gets embarrassing, though, when it doesn't work any longer and you haven't noticed.

:28. Here's the crux of the Dem plan and why since 2002 they have downplayed the terror threat and to this day insist Bush is the problem, and not Islamist extremists, "We're gonna win a lot of seats if the American people aren't afraid." Last time I checked, Bill, it was good to be afraid of things that want to kill you, like cancer, and like Islamist terrorists. And this man wonders why we noticed he did nothing to stop the terrorist threat for 8 years. Because the Dems can only win when the American people are anesthetized. The Dems and Clinton know they cannot protect this country, so they must make it appear, as Clinton did for 8 years, that there is nothing to fight.

"If they're [the American people] afraid and we [the Dems] get divided again, then we may only win a few seats." Wow, even now the only thing he can think of is how World War III fits into his plans for power. How about winning a few seats, Bill, with new ideas and a vision for the future instead of trying to think of how to lobotomize the American people?

And what a perfect close from Wallace: "Mr. President, thank you for one of the more unusual interviews." Clinton did not look happy with that. Perhaps only then did he realize what actually happened.

UPDATE:

Paul at Powerline has an excellent post about the Clinton meltdown and also points to Byron York's assessment of Clinton's ultimately bizarre attempt to defend himself.

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:26 "If you've got a deal that works, just keep on doin' it." He did. Monica worked, and he kept on doing it despite his sworn oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and to therefore protect us from enemies, both foreign and domestic. The interview with C. Wallace revealed him to be what he is -- a compulsive, obcessive, paranoid neurotic. If I weren't so repulsed, I could almost feel sorry for him.

Posted by: predoc at September 24, 2006 04:25 PM

Let's not forget how Clinton armed the mujahedeen in Bosnia by breaking an UN arms embargo and shipping bin Laden's friends almost a billion in small arms from IRAN!

from http://www.espritdecorps.ca/new_page_221.htm
Osama bin Laden -- stripped of his Saudi citizenship in 1994 -- is alleged to have retained the Bosnian passport he was issued in Vienna in 1993. According to a Sept. 1999 report in Dani, a Bosnian Muslim weekly paper, Alija Izetbegovic, then president of Bosnia, granted Mr. bin Laden a passport in recognition of his followers' contributions to Mr. Izetbegovic's quest to create a "fundamentalist Islamic republic" in the Balkans.

from http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/061.shtml
Bosnian Muslim War Crimes: The ICTY Trial of Enver Hadzihasanovic and Amir Kubura. The trial is important in showing the extent of Al-Qaeda involvement in the Bosnian Civil War of 1992-1995. Hadzihasanovic and Kubura are charged with command responsibility for war crimes committed by mujahedeen troops in the Bosnian Muslim Army. These foreign Muslim Jihad or “Islamic holy warriors” were assembled in a special Bosnian Army unit called the “El Mujahed unit”. This unit committed some of the worst war crimes and crimes against humanity against Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat civilians and POWs.

Don't even get me started about al Qaeda involvement in KosovO and Macedonia.

Posted by: Andy from Beaverton at September 24, 2006 10:25 PM

What can you say about the mental contortions of a man who, although he tried mightily, was beat out by a nose by Jimmy Carter as the worst President in the history of the United States?

Posted by: St. Thor at September 25, 2006 05:08 AM

I didn't see the interview but great job by Chris Wallace in revealing the real Slick Willey. In news releases of the interview I saw Slick almost come out of his chair and physically attack Wallace (like he did with Paula Jones and Anita B.) It was Al Qaeda that almost took down the WTC buildings in 1993, if Slick didn't know that then it was because they treated the terrorist threat as a local police problem and not a global terrorist threat. He was clueless on the war on terror. His main priority was his next physical conquest, not American national security. He is now trying to rewrite history and he will fist fight Chris Wallace to have is way. What a piece of work. And Mrs. Slick Willey is even worse then he is.

Posted by: SteveOk at September 25, 2006 05:48 AM

Thor - Carter was much worse than Clinton. Not close. Bill was a self centered, ruthless, mean man but was a much better President than Carter. But that's like saying the Redskins are a much better team than the Raiders - The Raiders are so bad a moderately bad team is still much better. Carter like the Raiders is the worst, and worst by far!

Posted by: Rod at September 25, 2006 06:08 AM

Rod--I'll concede that the feeling about Clinton after he was out of Office was far better than the feeling about Carter after he was out of Office--in both cases a sense of relief at the country having finally rid itself of something small, weak, and smarmy. But I suggest that when you are mucking around in the bottom of a stagnant pond, the putridity is a matter of degree.

Posted by: St. Thor at September 25, 2006 04:01 PM

Tammy,

I think you're jumping the gun. Clinton didn't insist Osama wasn't involved; he insisted he didn't know who Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda were or what king of a threat they posed.

You do see the difference, right?

I hope you'll correct the relevant facts in error. Someone might accuse you of being dishonest.

[It's not called 'jumping the gun' when you quote the transcript of the interview, which Ms. Bruce does in this post. You're getting awfully close to being a troll.--ed.]

Posted by: kdp at September 25, 2006 07:31 PM

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