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	<title>Comments on: Israel&#8217;s Olmert Ready to Surrender</title>
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		<title>By: piboulder</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2006/11/israels_olmert_ready_to_surren.html#comment-105644</link>
		<dc:creator>piboulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree. I&#039;ve listened to Walid Shoebat who grew up in what is now the West Bank. He said the worst thing you can do with the Palestinian extremists is back down. They will only be encouraged to step up their campaigns of violence because they see it as a step in the &quot;right direction&quot; for their agenda. They don&#039;t care by what means they achieve it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The cease fire Israel had with Hezbollah is but one example of many cease fires. All they do is give their enemies the opportunity to regroup, re-equip, and live to kill Jews another day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As another commenter said, implementation is the key, not promises.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We talk about having peace with Arab nations so long as they give up and condemn terrorism. The true meaning of this, though, is that Arab nations must give up their belief in Islamic supremacy, meaning the messages that are constantly sent out over Arab media, particularly state owned, that Jews are &quot;dogs and pigs&quot;, and inflammatory rhetoric blaming the &quot;crusaders&quot; (the West) for their problems. For comparison, let&#039;s remember that Nazi Germany called Jews &quot;rats&quot; and an &quot;infestation&quot;. This is just the kind of rhetoric that children are being taught on a regular basis not only in the West Bank and Gaza, but in other Arab states. This is what truly must end before there can be peace.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I&#8217;ve listened to Walid Shoebat who grew up in what is now the West Bank. He said the worst thing you can do with the Palestinian extremists is back down. They will only be encouraged to step up their campaigns of violence because they see it as a step in the &#8220;right direction&#8221; for their agenda. They don&#8217;t care by what means they achieve it.</p>
<p>The cease fire Israel had with Hezbollah is but one example of many cease fires. All they do is give their enemies the opportunity to regroup, re-equip, and live to kill Jews another day.</p>
<p>As another commenter said, implementation is the key, not promises.</p>
<p>We talk about having peace with Arab nations so long as they give up and condemn terrorism. The true meaning of this, though, is that Arab nations must give up their belief in Islamic supremacy, meaning the messages that are constantly sent out over Arab media, particularly state owned, that Jews are &#8220;dogs and pigs&#8221;, and inflammatory rhetoric blaming the &#8220;crusaders&#8221; (the West) for their problems. For comparison, let&#8217;s remember that Nazi Germany called Jews &#8220;rats&#8221; and an &#8220;infestation&#8221;. This is just the kind of rhetoric that children are being taught on a regular basis not only in the West Bank and Gaza, but in other Arab states. This is what truly must end before there can be peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Lib85</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2006/11/israels_olmert_ready_to_surren.html#comment-105643</link>
		<dc:creator>Lib85</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Connecticut Bruce stole my thunder.  I was going to post that Netanyahu is the only hope.  The Israeli&#039;s elected this mushy liberal and you see what it gets them.  More concessions on top of concessions.  You don&#039;t negotiate the end of a war with terrorists.  They need to be defeated militarily before it ends.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe after this latest round of appeasement, the terrorists will be satisfied and won&#039;t want to exterminate the Jews anymore.  Goodness!  This is as pathetic as the U.S. wanting to negotiate with Iran and Syria.  They need courage in Israel and we need courage in the U.S.  What we don&#039;t need is Jim Baker.  Whose idea was that, anyway?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecticut Bruce stole my thunder.  I was going to post that Netanyahu is the only hope.  The Israeli&#8217;s elected this mushy liberal and you see what it gets them.  More concessions on top of concessions.  You don&#8217;t negotiate the end of a war with terrorists.  They need to be defeated militarily before it ends.  </p>
<p>Maybe after this latest round of appeasement, the terrorists will be satisfied and won&#8217;t want to exterminate the Jews anymore.  Goodness!  This is as pathetic as the U.S. wanting to negotiate with Iran and Syria.  They need courage in Israel and we need courage in the U.S.  What we don&#8217;t need is Jim Baker.  Whose idea was that, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: ConnecticutBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConnecticutBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;israel needs benjamin netanyahu in the PM&#039;s office ... because they are most likely going to have to do something about iran.  and only bibi has the guts to do it&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>israel needs benjamin netanyahu in the PM&#8217;s office &#8230; because they are most likely going to have to do something about iran.  and only bibi has the guts to do it</p>
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		<title>By: SLABBOTT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLABBOTT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israel could withdraw from Israel and give it to the Arabs and they would still track the Jews down and persecute them!  C&#039;mon, get with the program!  You can&#039;t negotiate with these Islamic pricks!  All you can do is defeat them!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel could withdraw from Israel and give it to the Arabs and they would still track the Jews down and persecute them!  C&#8217;mon, get with the program!  You can&#8217;t negotiate with these Islamic pricks!  All you can do is defeat them!</p>
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		<title>By: Talkin Horse</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2006/11/israels_olmert_ready_to_surren.html#comment-105640</link>
		<dc:creator>Talkin Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The situation may be deeper than is implied by this summary. The &quot;right of return&quot; is the major issue on which there&#039;s never been any agreement. Prisoner and land concessions are usually negotiable. But the Palestinians have insisted that they &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; have the right to be citizens of Israel. Obviously the Israelis would under no circumstances ever agree to any such thing; their nation would be immediately overrun by hostiles who want it to cease to exist. So a big underlying question has been, are there &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; circumstances under which the Palestinians would relinquish the &quot;right of return&quot;. That seems to be the key part of Olmert&#039;s address, and it will presumably be summarily rejected by the Palestinians. So I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about him giving away the farm. Meanwhile, he&#039;s thrown the stinking anti-Semitic world a bone by putting more territory on the table. That helps a bit in the propaganda war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there any chance that the Palestinians would respond positively? Doesn&#039;t seem likely, but it would be interesting if they did. Then the Israelis would have to struggle with the usual issue of negotiating with people who want you wiped off the map and who aren&#039;t keen on keeping their agreements.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation may be deeper than is implied by this summary. The &#8220;right of return&#8221; is the major issue on which there&#8217;s never been any agreement. Prisoner and land concessions are usually negotiable. But the Palestinians have insisted that they <b>all</b> have the right to be citizens of Israel. Obviously the Israelis would under no circumstances ever agree to any such thing; their nation would be immediately overrun by hostiles who want it to cease to exist. So a big underlying question has been, are there <i>any</i> circumstances under which the Palestinians would relinquish the &#8220;right of return&#8221;. That seems to be the key part of Olmert&#8217;s address, and it will presumably be summarily rejected by the Palestinians. So I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about him giving away the farm. Meanwhile, he&#8217;s thrown the stinking anti-Semitic world a bone by putting more territory on the table. That helps a bit in the propaganda war.</p>
<p>Is there any chance that the Palestinians would respond positively? Doesn&#8217;t seem likely, but it would be interesting if they did. Then the Israelis would have to struggle with the usual issue of negotiating with people who want you wiped off the map and who aren&#8217;t keen on keeping their agreements.</p>
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		<title>By: FozzieBear</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2006/11/israels_olmert_ready_to_surren.html#comment-105639</link>
		<dc:creator>FozzieBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Methinks the man doth speak too much. And doesn&#039;t he get it?  The Paleosimians are ON RECORD --repeatedly -- that the only peace in which they are interested is effected by a non-existent Israel. Yes, the Jews desperately need new leadership. They&#039;re dealing with creatures who are consumate liars.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Methinks the man doth speak too much. And doesn&#8217;t he get it?  The Paleosimians are ON RECORD &#8211;repeatedly &#8212; that the only peace in which they are interested is effected by a non-existent Israel. Yes, the Jews desperately need new leadership. They&#8217;re dealing with creatures who are consumate liars.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveOk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not going to give up on Israel just because they have some bad leadership at the moment.  I believe they should do what they believe is in their best interest without the US or anyone else (especially the vile UN) dictating what they should do.  During the Clinton years he would bring the Israeli leadership to Camp David and brow beat them into agreeing with a US brokered deal.  You see what that accomplished (nothing).  LET ISRAEL BE ISRAEL, and let them do whatever they believe is in their best interests.  I support any decision they make and if the UN doesn&#039;t like it then they can pack their bags and leave New York.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to give up on Israel just because they have some bad leadership at the moment.  I believe they should do what they believe is in their best interest without the US or anyone else (especially the vile UN) dictating what they should do.  During the Clinton years he would bring the Israeli leadership to Camp David and brow beat them into agreeing with a US brokered deal.  You see what that accomplished (nothing).  LET ISRAEL BE ISRAEL, and let them do whatever they believe is in their best interests.  I support any decision they make and if the UN doesn&#8217;t like it then they can pack their bags and leave New York.</p>
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