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	<title>Comments on: Greenspan says the war is about oil?</title>
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		<title>By: FinrodFelagund</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100493</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Is there something shocking or disreputable in this? Greenspan is stating an obvious truth that is acknowledged by all.&quot;  No, he isn&#039;t.  Can you name a single administration official who&#039;s acknowledged that oil was the prime motivator?  How about any nationally known politician of either party?  The conquering of Iraq was sold to Americans first by scaring them with Saddam&#039;s WMDs.  When that didn&#039;t pan out the new pitch involoved Wilsonian adventurism, spreading freedom and democracy throughout the region.  Acknowledging that our invasion was about strategic control of the region&#039;s petroleum was, and is, largely unthinkable in the public realm.  That is, in fact, why Mr. Greenspan&#039;s new revelation is making such news today.  Fans of what Republicans used to call &quot;realism&quot; (and what most of today&#039;s Republicans call isolationism) were never on board with this bald, obvious power move.  Thucydides, Machiavelli et al would be amazed that, for the first time in human history, one nation invaded another in order to help those people.  Jesus.  &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is there something shocking or disreputable in this? Greenspan is stating an obvious truth that is acknowledged by all.&#8221;  No, he isn&#8217;t.  Can you name a single administration official who&#8217;s acknowledged that oil was the prime motivator?  How about any nationally known politician of either party?  The conquering of Iraq was sold to Americans first by scaring them with Saddam&#8217;s WMDs.  When that didn&#8217;t pan out the new pitch involoved Wilsonian adventurism, spreading freedom and democracy throughout the region.  Acknowledging that our invasion was about strategic control of the region&#8217;s petroleum was, and is, largely unthinkable in the public realm.  That is, in fact, why Mr. Greenspan&#8217;s new revelation is making such news today.  Fans of what Republicans used to call &#8220;realism&#8221; (and what most of today&#8217;s Republicans call isolationism) were never on board with this bald, obvious power move.  Thucydides, Machiavelli et al would be amazed that, for the first time in human history, one nation invaded another in order to help those people.  Jesus.  </p>
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		<title>By: JAW</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100492</link>
		<dc:creator>JAW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This seems like a blatently obvious point, but I must mention it: wouldn&#039;t it make much more sense to marginalize these dictators sitting on most of the oil that is left in the world by weaning ourselves off of it?  We are set to spend $1 trillion in Iraq. With that amount of money we could have set up an Apollo program for the development and implementation of alternative energy sources that work.  Then those people would have no more money and no more power over their people.  Not to mention the environmental benefits (believe it or not, but preserving the environment is one of the most important things we can do for our long term survival for a multitude of reasons).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know people have arguments against current alternative energy sources, and those arguments are all very valid.  That is why we need a program to find a viable, practical source or sources.  We have the innovative strength and the technological ability, we just need the will to stand up to the oil lobby and politicians.  Public financing of elections would help.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, we are pretty much at peak oil on earth, meaning that there is less than half of the originalsupply left in the ground.  So from this point forward, we can expect the situation between the oil companies, OPEC, Dictators, and our bought-off leaders to get much worse unless we put a stop to it.  Drilling here is not going to change that.  Even if you think that was a good idea, it would make more sense to leave it in the ground for strategic purposes when the world supply shrinks. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like a blatently obvious point, but I must mention it: wouldn&#8217;t it make much more sense to marginalize these dictators sitting on most of the oil that is left in the world by weaning ourselves off of it?  We are set to spend $1 trillion in Iraq. With that amount of money we could have set up an Apollo program for the development and implementation of alternative energy sources that work.  Then those people would have no more money and no more power over their people.  Not to mention the environmental benefits (believe it or not, but preserving the environment is one of the most important things we can do for our long term survival for a multitude of reasons).  </p>
<p>I know people have arguments against current alternative energy sources, and those arguments are all very valid.  That is why we need a program to find a viable, practical source or sources.  We have the innovative strength and the technological ability, we just need the will to stand up to the oil lobby and politicians.  Public financing of elections would help.  </p>
<p>Incidentally, we are pretty much at peak oil on earth, meaning that there is less than half of the originalsupply left in the ground.  So from this point forward, we can expect the situation between the oil companies, OPEC, Dictators, and our bought-off leaders to get much worse unless we put a stop to it.  Drilling here is not going to change that.  Even if you think that was a good idea, it would make more sense to leave it in the ground for strategic purposes when the world supply shrinks. </p>
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		<title>By: dances with trout</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100491</link>
		<dc:creator>dances with trout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder if his wife, Andrea Mitchell of NBC said, &quot;honey you own me one.&quot;  :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if his wife, Andrea Mitchell of NBC said, &#8220;honey you own me one.&#8221;  :)</p>
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		<title>By: dances with trout</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100490</link>
		<dc:creator>dances with trout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Rod,&lt;br /&gt;
I couldnâ€™t agree with you more. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
â€œGeologists estimate that another 300 trillion cubic feet of gas and 50 billion barrels of oil are waiting, yet to be discovered, off the &quot;Lower 48&quot; states. The American Petroleum Institute (API) notes that this is enough oil to replace current imports from the Persian Gulf for 59 years. Overall, experts estimate that the undiscovered resources on the federal Outer Continental Shelf that could be recovered with today&#039;s technology are some 420 trillion cubic feet of gas and 77 billion barrels of oil - as much oil as Canada and Mexico combined, and almost three times their gas resources. (Generally, the OCS begins three to nine nautical miles from shore, depending on the state, and extends 200 nautical miles outward.), wrote Mr. Owens in an article titled, â€œAmericas Untapped Oil Supply.â€&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2np4yb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2np4yb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Environmentalists rail against oil exploration in Alaska and off the coast of the U.S. but say nothing about Chinaâ€™s deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore and tap into the massive oil reserves less than 50 miles off the coast of Key West, Florida.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Iâ€™ve read that these Chinese firms plan to â€œslant drillâ€ near the Florida Straits.  If they are successful, they could tap into the U.S. oil reserves which are estimated at 4.8 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.   &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod,<br />
I couldnâ€™t agree with you more. </p>
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â€œGeologists estimate that another 300 trillion cubic feet of gas and 50 billion barrels of oil are waiting, yet to be discovered, off the &#8220;Lower 48&#8243; states. The American Petroleum Institute (API) notes that this is enough oil to replace current imports from the Persian Gulf for 59 years. Overall, experts estimate that the undiscovered resources on the federal Outer Continental Shelf that could be recovered with today&#8217;s technology are some 420 trillion cubic feet of gas and 77 billion barrels of oil &#8211; as much oil as Canada and Mexico combined, and almost three times their gas resources. (Generally, the OCS begins three to nine nautical miles from shore, depending on the state, and extends 200 nautical miles outward.), wrote Mr. Owens in an article titled, â€œAmericas Untapped Oil Supply.â€<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2np4yb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2np4yb</a></p>
<p>Environmentalists rail against oil exploration in Alaska and off the coast of the U.S. but say nothing about Chinaâ€™s deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore and tap into the massive oil reserves less than 50 miles off the coast of Key West, Florida.  </p>
<p>Iâ€™ve read that these Chinese firms plan to â€œslant drillâ€ near the Florida Straits.  If they are successful, they could tap into the U.S. oil reserves which are estimated at 4.8 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.   </p>
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		<title>By: N_Campbell</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100489</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep, there&#039;s been close ties between the Bushes and the Saudis.  Along with every other President since the formation of the Kingdom.  The original love the Saudi heads had for America dates back to the 19th Century, when American missionaries built schools and hospitals on the Arabian Penninsula.  Then, when oil was found there, they refused offers from European companies and granted the exploration contracts to American companies.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, there&#8217;s been close ties between the Bushes and the Saudis.  Along with every other President since the formation of the Kingdom.  The original love the Saudi heads had for America dates back to the 19th Century, when American missionaries built schools and hospitals on the Arabian Penninsula.  Then, when oil was found there, they refused offers from European companies and granted the exploration contracts to American companies.</p>
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		<title>By: St. Thor</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100488</link>
		<dc:creator>St. Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember also that Greenspan is a fan of Ayn Rand.  In her world the only thing that counts is economic man.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember also that Greenspan is a fan of Ayn Rand.  In her world the only thing that counts is economic man.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
		<link>http://tammybruce.com/2007/09/greenspan_says_the_war_is_abou.html#comment-100487</link>
		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;NO WAR FOR OIL!!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, I work next door to my home, and I live in California.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;NO WAR FOR OIL!!&#8221;</p>
<p>By the way, I work next door to my home, and I live in California.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*** off topic - related to a post by Tammy a few days ago ***&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I Just read that GWB will throw conservatives a bone in the new AG.  Not Ted olson but a man highly recomended by the 2 CONSERVATIVE senators from NY. The man highly thought of by both Schumer and Clinton is Mukaskey. Like Hillary and Chuck he is from the conservative red state NY.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An you guys thought GWB was a liberal push over!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*** off topic &#8211; related to a post by Tammy a few days ago ***</p>
<p>I Just read that GWB will throw conservatives a bone in the new AG.  Not Ted olson but a man highly recomended by the 2 CONSERVATIVE senators from NY. The man highly thought of by both Schumer and Clinton is Mukaskey. Like Hillary and Chuck he is from the conservative red state NY.</p>
<p>An you guys thought GWB was a liberal push over!</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;addendum - -&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I had first thought this would go without saying but on second and third thoughts I decided it does not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We can not and should not overlool the close ties the Bush Clan has and has had for 50 years with the Saudis!&lt;br /&gt;
It is not just Hillary and Rudy it is all liberal/progressive leaders that protect OPEC.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>addendum &#8211; -</p>
<p>I had first thought this would go without saying but on second and third thoughts I decided it does not.</p>
<p>We can not and should not overlool the close ties the Bush Clan has and has had for 50 years with the Saudis!<br />
It is not just Hillary and Rudy it is all liberal/progressive leaders that protect OPEC.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maynard â€“ &lt;br /&gt;
I have a minor but very significant disagreement with your analysis. I agree Sadam was a monster and the world is *much* better off with him dead. But you (like the MSM and lefties the world over) grossly over state the significance of OPEC oil. The key to world oil supply and prices is America.  When Ronnie reversed Jimmyâ€™s limits on the Elk Hill (out West) oil prices fell from $44 to $20 in 2 years and gas here in Cal fell from $1.72 in 81 to $0.85 in 89. We could drop the oil price to below $15 in 5 years if we did the same thing in Alaska. What is holding us back is the money OPEC pours into our â€œleadersâ€ via lobbyists. I have mentioned Rudyâ€™s close ties to one OPEC champion  - Hugo Chavez - - but it needs to be mentioned again. Because we *can* control the significant marginal oil production of the world and thereby oil prices if only we can find the *will* to do so.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the major things that separated Ronnie from all of our leaders the last 100 years is that he had the will to do what was right for humans all over the world and not let OPEC control oil by pretending to be worried about the environment. ANWAR is not about the environment it is about OPEC and it control of oil prices. Check out who has been the biggest supporters of Jimmyâ€™s ban on drilling in Alaska and you will see that they  get money from lobbyists and groups that in turn get their money from OPEC. Start at the top with Jimmy but continue with my 2 senators (Boxer, Feinstein) go to Rudy and Teddy and Hillaryâ€¦  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America can control oil prices and keep the price under $20 if America will! We have done it for most of the last century and if we honestly want to we can do it again. Alaska drilling is not about the environment it is about â€œleadersâ€ getting money from OPEC and selling out America and the rest of the world . &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maynard â€“ <br />
I have a minor but very significant disagreement with your analysis. I agree Sadam was a monster and the world is *much* better off with him dead. But you (like the MSM and lefties the world over) grossly over state the significance of OPEC oil. The key to world oil supply and prices is America.  When Ronnie reversed Jimmyâ€™s limits on the Elk Hill (out West) oil prices fell from $44 to $20 in 2 years and gas here in Cal fell from $1.72 in 81 to $0.85 in 89. We could drop the oil price to below $15 in 5 years if we did the same thing in Alaska. What is holding us back is the money OPEC pours into our â€œleadersâ€ via lobbyists. I have mentioned Rudyâ€™s close ties to one OPEC champion  &#8211; Hugo Chavez &#8211; - but it needs to be mentioned again. Because we *can* control the significant marginal oil production of the world and thereby oil prices if only we can find the *will* to do so.</p>
<p>One of the major things that separated Ronnie from all of our leaders the last 100 years is that he had the will to do what was right for humans all over the world and not let OPEC control oil by pretending to be worried about the environment. ANWAR is not about the environment it is about OPEC and it control of oil prices. Check out who has been the biggest supporters of Jimmyâ€™s ban on drilling in Alaska and you will see that they  get money from lobbyists and groups that in turn get their money from OPEC. Start at the top with Jimmy but continue with my 2 senators (Boxer, Feinstein) go to Rudy and Teddy and Hillaryâ€¦  </p>
<p>America can control oil prices and keep the price under $20 if America will! We have done it for most of the last century and if we honestly want to we can do it again. Alaska drilling is not about the environment it is about â€œleadersâ€ getting money from OPEC and selling out America and the rest of the world . </p>
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