We’ll be talking about the options for conservatives regarding the McCain candidacy. The answer, of course, is everyone should vote for Romney. Part of the context is Ann Coulter’s comments that she will vote for Hillary over McCain. I’ve noted for quite some time that there are a few situations, if presented by the Repubs, that would make me return to the Dem fold (for one fleeting moment) and vote for Hillary, including Huckabee being anywhere near the ultimate ticket. It’s possible I may make that choice if McCain is the nominee as well.

It should be lively. Hope you can tune in.

UPDATE:

Allah at Hot Air has the video with the headline: “Tammy Bruce: Come to think of it, I might vote for Hillary over McCain too,” and then the tagline: “Conservative crack-up mania!”

Yep.

UPDATE:

Here’s another point, also made by commenters on the Hot Air site–if the nation is going to be driven into a wall at 80 miles an hour by either of the candidates, then let the Dem do it.

UPDATE:

A thoughtful note in Comments from Pat worthy of a view on the front page.

The month of January has been a rough one for conservatives. I think we are shell-shocked and starting to say things that don’t make sense.

I hope the Romney Rally is successful. Let’s be honest. He’s the Stop McCain candidate. He’s the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice for many of us. McCain is the bane of our existence right now. We thought he was vanquished and now he’s on the brink of triumph. We hate it. That’s the source of our newfound love for Romney. How we expect Romney to be the peoples’ choice in November when it’s taken a rage-based crisis for Republicans to support him is a leap of faith. But I’m all for trying.

Now let’s look ahead and assume the worst. McCain is the nominee running against Hillary. Hillary will not be more conservative than McCain. That is ridiculous. At best she and he will be two stylistically different manifestations of the same liberalism. At worst the Marxist dogma fueling Hillary will ignite. A vote for Hillary is a spiteful vote against McCain. It’s nothing more noble or rational than that.

I disagree with John McCain on almost everything and I personally despise him. I admit it. I may not be emotionally able to vote for him in November but I will NEVER!!!! vote for Hillary Clinton. If the country falls into her clutches, any sweet sense of revenge voting for her against McCain will be fleeting and regretted for a long time after. I will not have an active hand in her success.

If my deep feelings against John McCain are paralytic on Election Day, I believe it is a more forceful rebuke to pass on both presidential candidates, effectively casting a “none of the above” vote, or perhaps write-in a name. Where is the sense in adding to Hillary’s vote count believing some distinction will be made that yours is a protest vote?

Voting for Hillary as some master plan to get the Democrats blamed for a liberal wreck and then expect the country will turn back to Republicans in 2012 is adopting the Giuliani strategy of leaving the battlefield to skip ahead and benefit from the failure of others. There’s no reason to believe it will be more successful for Republicans in 2012 than it was for Rudy last week.

From The Headless Horseman to The Bride of Frankenstein to The Night of The Living Dead it’s been one horror after another for conservatives. Keep a clear head. Let’s avoid Invasion of The Body Snatchers.

19 Comments | Leave a comment
  1. ashleymatt says:

    Time to replace Rudy with a Romney banner at tammybruce.com.

  2. Esquier says:

    You did great tonight Tammy. What Ann Coulter said last night parallels the point you made in “the New American Revolution” that after 9/11 individuals were no longer voting along party affiliations.

  3. N_Campbell says:

    Tammy, I wholeheartedly support Gov. Romney, but if my party decides that they want to put a liberal socialist up as the nominee, then I will vote for the authentic liberal socialist. The illusion that “McCain can win” is based solely on the idea that conservatives will hold their nose with one hand and pull the lever for McCain with the other.

    The time has come for conservatives to answer a question. Does this party belong to us, or the elites at the RNC? I for one would rather commit political seppuku before I gave legitimacy to Senator McCain’s claim that he is the heir to Reagan’s legacy.

  4. St. Thor says:

    If the Republican Party nominates McCain, it will be the Republican Party, not you N_Campbell, that is committing political seppuku. At that point all people of good will should start a new party to replace the dead Republican Party. Perhaps call it the Whigs.

  5. camperdude says:

    Count me also among the people who will vote for Hillary if McCain gets the nomination. It’s no secret why the LA Times, SF Chronicle, and the NY Times are all endorsing McCain. It’s ‘cuz the Democratic nominee – whoever it is – will win easily.

  6. RagingBullmoose says:

    SECOND LOOK AT NEW FEDERALIST PARTY!

    Wait…wrong site.

  7. BigRed says:

    Your position is wrong and politically dishonest.
    Like you, I am an old school democrat except I don’t drink kool-aid and am not swayed by so called pundits. For you to even suggest you would vote Hillary over John is outrageous. Not only is McCain not on the liberal level of Clinton (see the ACU, which has been cited incessantly), but you are suggesting a vote to change the course on the “war on terror” (not Bush’s war on terror – we all know that is bunk – aligning with abu mazen and his ilk, like abdullah and mubarak is proof enough) but a real war against Muslims that will do and have done anything to kill us for sport.
    4 years can do a lot of damage.
    Rethink your position. As a Jew and hawkish Zionist, it seems Dems seem to get us killed faster than republicans.

  8. Ripper says:

    George McGovern was a war hero as well, however that neo Marxist had no right to be POTUS and even though Nixon was the alternative thank God he was trashed in the 1972 election. I till though shudder at the thought of Bill Clinton back in the White House so let’s go Romney!

  9. TC says:

    McCain will adopt Democrat positions but Republicans will be blamed when they fail. Might as well have a real Democrat so Republicans won’t have to take the fall.

  10. Alex-1 says:

    Steroids are to Sports
    as
    Lies are to Media

    Both are dishonest.
    Both are cheating.
    Both are used for personal gain.

    We want our kids
    to value
    truth
    honesty
    fair play.

    Sanction steroids.
    Kids will emulate.
    Sanction lying.
    Kids will emulate.

    Each individual
    is either
    part of
    the solution
    or
    part of
    the problem.

    To let
    a lie
    go by
    when
    they know
    it’s a lie…
    does that
    make them feel
    proud and powerful?

    Be it athlete
    Be it candidate
    Be it journalist
    Be it pundit
    A lie is a lie.

    McCain lied.
    Russert etc let it stand
    thinking their clout
    would fool the fools.
    They take the public
    for fools.
    The public takes them
    for the liars they are.

    We are tired
    of these tactics.
    Tired of Huckabee’s
    dirty tricks too,
    his claim to
    moral superiority,
    thinking we
    can’t see
    his deception,
    cloaked in his
    down home rhetoric.
    He can’t hide
    his lying eyes
    as he insists
    his motives
    are pure.
    What kind of fools
    does he think we are?

    McCain lies…
    Huckabee deceives…
    all to discredit
    the candidate
    we desperately
    need now…
    a knowledgeable,
    articulate man
    who knows
    we have enemies,
    who knows
    world economies,
    who knows how
    defense & our economy
    are interrelated
    who knows how
    to make us strong
    on both counts.

  11. Mike says:

    There remains the possibility, if McCain is indeed the nominee, that he will move toward the conservative side of the spectrum in a way that might give conservatives a reasonable expectation that he would actually keep his promises to do things such as close the border, appoint strict constructionist judges, etc. Absent that, there are two options: Vote for the democrat or stay home on election day.

    I made the supreme mistake of voting for Bill Clinton the first time. I would never compound that mistake by voting for him the third. I suspect that many conservatives feel the same way, and would simply not vote.

    I agree wholeheartedly that Hilldabill and McCain would be very harmful, but the Dems would surely be worse (true, it’s a matter of degree), and in their mania to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the war would surely allow terrorists to conduct horrific attacks in America. Should that come to pass, genuine conservatism would be not just possible, but a virtual mandate. It’s tragic that we’ve come to this, but this might well be the only sane strategy in November.

    Of course, McCain is so ego-driven, intemperate and nasty he might well sink himself to the point that he makes a Billaray co-presidency a foregone conclusion no matter what anyone says or does.

  12. sallyride says:

    To all of you on this site, including Tammy, who are flirting with the idea of voting for Hillary Clinton, think about a subject recently in the news–the fairness doctrine.

    We all know that Hillary is a chameleon (sp.?), but don’t think for one moment that the idea has gone away. It has just gone to the back burner to join the other frogs.

  13. pat_s says:

    The month of January has been a rough one for conservatives. I think we are shell-shocked and starting to say things that don’t make sense.

    I hope the Romney Rally is successful. Let’s be honest. He’s the Stop McCain candidate. He’s the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice for many of us. McCain is the bane of our existence right now. We thought he was vanquished and now he’s on the brink of triumph. We hate it. That’s the source of our newfound love for Romney. How we expect Romney to be the peoples’ choice in November when it’s taken a rage-based crisis for Republicans to support him is a leap of faith. But I’m all for trying.

    Now let’s look ahead and assume the worst. McCain is the nominee running against Hillary. Hillary will not be more conservative than McCain. That is ridiculous. At best she and he will be two stylistically different manifestations of the same liberalism. At worst the Marxist dogma fueling Hillary will ignite. A vote for Hillary is a spiteful vote against McCain. It’s nothing more noble or rational than that.

    I disagree with John McCain on almost everything and I personally despise him. I admit it. I may not be emotionally able to vote for him in November but I will NEVER!!!! vote for Hillary Clinton. If the country falls into her clutches, any sweet sense of revenge voting for her against McCain will be fleeting and regretted for a long time after. I will not have an active hand in her success.

    If my deep feelings against John McCain are paralytic on Election Day, I believe it is a more forceful rebuke to pass on both presidential candidates, effectively casting a “none of the above” vote, or perhaps write-in a name. Where is the sense in adding to Hillary’s vote count believing some distinction will be made that yours is a protest vote?

    Voting for Hillary as some master plan to get the Democrats blamed for a liberal wreck and then expect the country will turn back to Republicans in 2012 is adopting the Giuliani strategy of leaving the battlefield to skip ahead and benefit from the failure of others. There’s no reason to believe it will be more successful for Republicans in 2012 than it was for Rudy last week.

    From The Headless Horseman to The Bride of Frankenstein to The Night of The Living Dead it’s been one horror after another for conservatives. Keep a clear head. Let’s avoid Invasion of The Body Snatchers.

  14. MCB says:

    If the election turns out to be Hillary v. McCain, I will sit it out. However, if it is Obama v. McCain, I will vote for McCain to stop Obama. Does anyone see the danger posed by Barack Obama – an inexperienced, naive far left liberal with questionable links to Islam? I know that many on our side of the aisle want to stop Hillary at all costs, but has anyone thought of what would happen if Obama would beat her and get the Democrat nomination? The media is head-over-heals in love with him. Simply for campaigning, the Republican nominee would be denounced as racist. Obama-mania and the cult of his personality would rein supreme. At this time of war, an Obama Presidency would put the country in far greater danger than a Hillary Clinton Presidency. At least the Clintons know what they are doing and would not want anything bad to happen on their watch. Of course, given the choices on our side, I hope McCain is stopped and Romney gets the Repbulican nomination and is victorious in November. A President Obama would be the worst outcome of this election.

  15. jerocat says:

    ALMOST APOPLECTIC HERE.

    Tammy and all,

    There are three socialist senators and one conservative governor running. The most hawkish senator happens to be in the “R” party. He is a Trojian horse. Two are brazen liars. One is a naive gentleman who belongs to and attends a racist church in Chicago.

    Looking at myself in the mirror, the president of the USA does not have to look like me, a white man. I adored Maggie Thatcher, Golda Meyer and BEFORE she became Secretary of State I adored tough minded Condie Rice (no longer.) I see many capable black men in business and industry and, a few in politics. I hope one day one of them rises up as leader of us all. I don’t care how they look. I care how they think, talk and act. The best candidate happens to be a white man from Massachusettes. NONE is more wise, has more breadth or is BETTER SUITED to become Cammander in Chief than Mitt Romney.

    Tammy, I hope that was only a threat your voiced to vote for Hillary, a verbal hyperbole. If she is elected I hope it’s on extremely slim margins with record low voter turn out. Sick of GHW Bush’s mealy mouthed talk, I voted for Bill. Big mistake. Never again.

    Based on his current run sooner or later Mitt will be president. Sooner is better. I am for Mitt on most things of consequence, things which affect our existance as a strong and vibrant nation. The little things will sort themselves out in our democracy.

  16. camperdude says:

    My feelings on the match-ups…

    Hillary v. McCain = Hillary in a landslide
    Obama v. McCain = Obama in a close race
    Hillary v. Romney = Hillary in a close race
    Obama v. Romney = the only scenario that the Reps. could win.

    We shouldn’t be too hard (or expect too much) from the Reps. They “have it all to do,” as they say.

    Bush may have set the party back for generations. Hell, he may have buried it for good. The Reps. have a very big hole to crawl out of.

  17. Dave J says:

    “Hillary v. McCain = Hillary in a landslide”

    How do you figure that? Where is the electoral college math that could produce a Hillary landslide, when 40-45% of people polled consistently say they would never vote for her under any circumstances? This statement seems some kind of modern analogue to Pauline Kael’s notorious quote about how Nixon couldn’t have won in 1968 because she didn’t know a single person who voted for him.

    As much as I’ve long disliked John McCain’s positions on a host of issues, the apoplectic hysteria against him among the rightwing intelligenstia in the past couple of weeks has me completely baffled. They (and this unfortunately includes you, Tammy) seem maniacally desperate to lose at all costs.

    Ever since 9/11, I’ve been a single-issue voter. The issue is the war (of which Iraq is but one small though important front). To vote on ANYTHING else is a deluded luxury we can ill afford. On that ONE issue, McCain is a solid leader, Romney is a marginal follower, and both the Dems are indistinguishably a catastrophic danger.

    To vote for Hillary against McCain in the hopes of “bad stuff” being tagged on her over the course of four years, after which someone on a white horse will sweep in as the Second Coming of Ronald Reagan, is just recklessly irresponsible. Four years of the Dems in complete control in Washington right now is something I do not know if the country would survive, and that is not hyperbole: four years of Hillary or Obama in the White House, and I fully EXPECT an Iranian nuke to go off in at least one US city.

    “The best candidate happens to be a white man from Massachusettes.”

    Who, me? That does after all, describe me but it doesn’t describe any of the actual candidates, since I’m not running. But since I’m from Massachusetts, I actually have experience with Mitt Romney (who’s from Michigan), and I despise him to the core of my being. He did little as governor, other than create a massive new health care entitlement. How that supposedly makes him a triumphant conservative flag-bearer I can’t even begin to understand. He was Bill Weld, Part II: another blue blooded flake parachuted onto Beacon Hill for the sake of his own ego who couldn’t have been more harmful to the anemic Massachusetts GOP if he’d tried. If only GWB hadn’t made Paul Celucci his ambassador to Canada: now THERE was someone who was a real conservative and who actually worked to build the party against all odds. Celucci, of course, supports McCain, because in the real world, where politics is the art of the possible, Mitt Romney is just the Republican version of Walter Mondale and would go to down to a comparable annihilation versus either Hillary or Obama. That, again, is something we simply cannot afford.

  18. N_Campbell says:

    Dave, let me explain why Senator McCain’s tough stance on Iraq is not enough. I believe that he will push us to fight the Jihadis with one hand, and undercut our ability to do so with the other. Without a strong economy, we cannot support a strong military. Without strong intelligence gathering, we lose ability to fend off future attacks on the homeland. Despite the Senator’s claim of being the foreign policy candidate, we have heard nothing regarding his policy towards Iran, Syria, North Korea or any of the other terrorist totalitarian regimes.

    I would be willing to bet that the good Senator would be willing to consider the Fairness Doctrine in retribution for talk radio and our defiance of McCain/Kennedy.

    This is a man that has made every effort to antagonize the conservative movement since his defeat in the 2000 primaries. Between his flip-flops on tax policy (tax cuts for the rich), immigration (Yes I would sign McCain Kennedy, but that’s a hypothetical), and even abortion (supported federal embryonic stem cell funding). Not to mention his joining forces with Citizens for Responsible Gun Laws back in 2001.

    I was initially hesitant of supporting Gov Romney last year, not because he changed his positions, I happen to be a fairly recent convert to conservatism myself, but because I viewed him as still a little weak on the Second Amendment. I find myself still a little uncomfortable with that, but I agree on far more issues then the Senator from Arizona.

    I cannot, in good faith, support the election of a man who would undermine the issues we agree on.

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