Senior British neurologists sound alarm over potential link to Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) with the new Swine Flu shot, similar to deadly problems associated with the 1976 flu shot debacle. And this is the garbage B. Hussein Obama and the HHS wants to shoot into your children. Twice.
A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.
The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications…One senior neurologist said last night: ‘I would not have the swine
flu jab because of the GBS risk.’There are concerns that there could be a repeat of what became known as the ‘1976 debacle’ in the US, where a swine flu vaccine killed 25 people – more than the virus itself.
I will not let my children take this swine flu shot, that is for sure!!!!!!
Kyle
Please jab me with some swine flu instead. I’ll take my chances with a cough and sore throat for 3-4 days, instead. Kthx!
A grad school friend of mine had GBS. It is a virus much like shingles and the like. once you get it, it never leaves, but goes dormant and can re-occur. (much like communism/fascism,etc) It can be very debilitating and painful, and can cause serious damage. Luckily, my friend came out of it well. But I remember the memory tests they bombarded him with during his recovery to make sure he had no brain damage from it. But he was paralyzed for almost two weeks with flu like symptoms, paralysis, and breathing problems. Stay away from this vaccine.
Obama has already swamped our children in an ocean of debt in order to pay for his boondoggles and crony friends. I’m more worried about the children that survive than the casualties.
Pandemic! Holy Cats! In the interest of National Security, we should insist that all our political representatives and their immediate family members be the first in line for the shots.
Just saying … it’s our patriotic duty to see they are protected!!
Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has been associated with antecedent bacterial and viral infections, administration of certain vaccinations, and other systemic illnesses.
A study reviewing the cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) during the 1992-1993 and 1993-1994 influenza seasons found an adjusted relative risk of 1.7 cases per 1 million influenza vaccinations.
Most patients (up to 85%) with GBS achieve a full and functional recovery within 6-12 months. Recovery is maximal by 18 months past onset.
Despite intensive care, 3-8% of patients with GBS die. GBS can rarely be a recurrent disorder.
The fear of an influenza pandemic in 1976 led to a national campaign in the United States designed to immunize nearly the entire population. In October, 1976, approximately 40 million people received the A/NewJersey/1976/H1N1 vaccine (ie, swine flu vaccine) before the immunization initiative was halted because of the strong association between the vaccine and (GBS).About 500 cases of GBS were reported, with 25 deaths due to associated pulmonary complications.
Reference eMedicine
With any medical, safety, or preventive care decision, it seems prudent to go with the odds. There is no crystal ball.
Many people fear using seatbelts…” If my car leaves the road and rolls into a water-filled ditch, I will be trapped by the seat belt and drown”. But the odds of surviving a crash unbelted are much lower than the odds of drowning in a rollover. If you buckle up, your chance of survival increases by more than 50 per cent.
Research and vigilance. I’m watching this one too!
RuBegonia is asking the right question: What are the numbers? I’m certainly willing to accept the 2-in-a-million chance of GBS with an ordinary flu shot. About the canceled 1976 inoculation program… 500 cases of GBS in 40 million vaccinations works out to 1 in 80,000. I read another estimate of 1 in 100,000. Those are pretty good odds…you’re probably taking a bigger risk than that every time you travel in a car. Although, on the flip side, the expected 1976 pandemic didn’t happen, and the GBS made the program become quite an embarrassment. However, if you listen to anecdotal reports, you’ll hear more people complaining about serious aftereffects of inoculation than these numbers would indicate. Why is that? Are the statistics incomplete, or do people just like to complain and spread urban legends? I generally end up getting flu shots, on the general understanding that the protection outweighs the risk.
One in a million is too a chance big if you’re the one. I had to get the swine flu vaccine in college because the opt-out hoops were really hard to jump through. I’ve never had another vaccine since. Vaccines are stabilized with mercury compounds, and they aren’t good for you. They also accumulate. They don’t flush out of your tissue. The relative risk for a flu is definitely not worth it. Now if I were young and sexually active, I would consider a vaccine for HIV or herpes, if they existed. The best preventative measure is frequent hand washing. Wash hands after shaking hands or handling common objects shared by others. A Brittish study showed that hand washing works better than vaccines. 30% of people vaccinated got a virus after just three exposures.
your best chance against the flu is your body’s natural capacity to fight it. if you get the vaccine even though you have no known immune system vulnerabilities ( such as age or other illnesses) you risk destroying your body’s effectiveness in fighting the disease.the government actively, falsely trying to foist a pandemic or ‘health emergency’ on to people- besides the threat from a deadly flawed vaccine- also jeopardizes the populations’ ability to develop and sustain natural immunities.
this same principle applies to the over use of antibiotics- over use or use when unnecessary renders diseases resistant. our society is pill happy and the pharmaceutical industry, while certainly capable of providing life saving and useful products, also has a very checkered history of exploitation, greed and greasing the government hack machine ( and doctors and hospitals) liberally to get their products approved. the interaction between drug companies and the fda is near criminal – a profound conflict of interest.and their current coziness with obama and his health storm troopers should not be. ( an excellent both personal account of and investigation of drug companies and the government is” bitter pills” by stephen fried .highly recommended reading.)
i do not trust them – they’re about selling products . period. which is fine and dandy until you realize that their money affords them ready access to our government, immense power over the approval process of their own products within the fda and ultimately power over our lives that should no way be allowed.
a drug company used minority women to test birth control pills- and killed some of them and the government covered it up. is that more or less ‘evil’ than being an insurance provider or more or less ‘racist’ than being anti-obamacare ‘astroturf’? the fact of the matter is that big drug and agribusiness has always been one of the big bogeymen evil henchmen of liberal rhetoric(and not, for once, without good basis) and now obama wants us to think his involvement with them is all puppies, rainbows, universal peace, unicorns and the Love. how does he gag that down? the aura of ambiguity commonly called lying and making’ the peanuts teacher noise’ just ain’t cutting it any more.
In the fall of 1975 my Father received a standard yearly flu shot. Within two week he was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome and Transverse myelitis. He ultimately became paralyzed from the waist down and remained that way for 33 1/2 years. For most of those 33 1/2 years he remained hopeful of some kind of cure and every year became more bitter none was ever found. He finally died in late January of this year from complication of Guillain-Barré syndrome. No one in my immediate family has had a flu shot of any kind in all those years and no one is going to have one now. I don’t normally post comments on forums or blogs (as indicated by my poor punctuation) but i felt it was important to post this somewhere and encourage people to truly consider the consequences of getting a flu shot of any kind, not just the swine flu vaccine.
The isssue with the “new” swine flu shots is not so much whether or not they are in themselves deadly in a way that is quantifiable statistically, but rather the Obama Administration’s actual approach to how and /or if they will adminstered. Gerald Ford, a definite RINO by modern definition, knew when to back off when criticism mounted about the vaccine used at the time, and dropped the issue.
Given what I’ve seen about Obama so far, and particularly now, if Swine Flu goes pandemic to the point of some tangible social and /or economic disruption will we see martial law/government emergency powers used at the drop of the hat, and see some kind of Obama-imposed COERCED IMMUNIZATION with the approval from the same arrogant Congressional losers we’ve met or heard about in their contrived Town Halls on so-called healthcare reform? Food for thought.
Guard your freedom as a precious jewel no matter what, folks. The storm is not over yet.
I did have Guillain Barre Syndrome when I was 15, after having had a run-of-the mill 24-hour virus. The virus never left my body and attacked my spine. At first I started having trouble walking and then I couldn’t hold anything in my hands without dropping it. Eventually I couldn’t walk at all. I was hospitalized for several weeks and put on heavy doses of cortizone which I had to take for one year. That caused all kinds of other problems. I had to learn how to walk all over again and needed a walker for quite awhile. Not the kind of thing an active 15 year old equestrienne should have to deal with.
I had severe back problems for years and now decades later, I still have residual back pain from the GBS when walking too far or sitting in certain kinds of chairs like in movie theaters. Thankfully, though, I can still ride and jump horses.
The doctor I had back then had another teenager who got GBS and she remained in an iron lung for a year because it affected her respiratory system and she died about 6 months later.
I would never take a swine flu shot, or any other kind of flu shot for that matter.
my first job out of PT school was in a children’s muscle disease service and i had three GBS on the caseload. to quote urkel, it technically is “less bad” than other diagnoses but as everyone has stated, who wants to get it?
the larger point that needs to be echoed is that the science and probabilities for this vaccine, as far as i know, is lacking. as the virus mutates, will the new variation be more severe but much rarer to catch? so vaccinate. are the numbers so high (probabilities so low) that the risk of making any healthy people get sick (like GBS) is just not worth it? then don’t vaccinate. clearly not enough data points. like with everything o’joker touches, “why so hurried?”
what the current administration has done is cloud the debate by getting in bed with pharma. they are not the first, but that is irrelevant to today’s question. every other statement out of urkel’s piehole is “screw the doctors, take the pill” , “forget the hip replacement, take the pill”, “the insurance companies are evil, you need to take more pills”, “your pre-existing condition may not be covered, you’d better take another pill”. the common thread looks like urkel wants to pimp for pharma. with his glorious track record of being able to recite talking points smoothly and through contradiction after contradiction, is it any wonder that no one trusts this idiot?
rick
I was wondering the same thing. The experience with H1N1 so far is that it is a mild flu. If the virus mutates into something more severe, we don’t know if the vaccine will be effective. The CDC is just starting the testing yet says the vaccine will be ready by October. That’s a little too rushed for me to risk it for a mild case of the flu.
Obviously there are moneyed interests being serviced here, as is always the case when the government spends $$$. I honestly don’t understand how Obama can get away with it, piously pledging upright transparency while blatantly getting into bed with cronies that feed off the public trough and benefit handsomely from his policies while recycling ill-gotten gains back into his pocket. Even by the loose standards of Washington, this is excessive.
But back to the technical questions…and here I have to admit my ignorance, and so I speculate, and I would like to hear a voice of authority clarifying the issue…okay, first of all, why do ordinary flu shots work? My understanding: At the basic level, being injected with some dead virus and some antibodies exposes your body to a taste of the problem and gives it the blueprint for how to build the antibodies to battle that problem. Thus when the live flu hits later, the body is ready for it. Is that a fair overview? Then there’s the issue of mutation. Just as H1N1 mutates, so do the ordinary flu viruses. My general understanding is that, as the viruses mutate, the ordinary flu shot becomes less effective; however it does provide some degree of a jump start in getting your body to the point where it can manufacture the proper antibody, since you’re starting not from scratch but from the base virus. So I would assume a similar process is in place with H1N1…it will mutate, but vaccination against the base will be of significant help. Is the foregoing the right way to look at it?
Then there’s the technical question about why H1N1 is considered a bigger threat than the ordinary flu viruses that sweep the world. And here I defer to authority; *somebody* out there seems particularly concerned, and of course there is the pandemic of 90 years ago that this is compared to…and on the flip side, the 1976 pandemic that failed to happen. I guess the odd combination of pig/bird/human genetic code (ha ha, reminds me of “man bear pig”!) in this “swine flu” is evaluated to be more biologically potent or threatening than the ordinary flu variants. We all should be painfully aware the “experts” are often delusional morons; however I don’t feel I have the authority to dismiss the concerns and warnings, at least not at this time.
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I’ve taken the seasonal flu shot for 11 years. My allergist and I discussed that it would help me trmendously. Considering at the time I was living in a college dorm where it was a petri dish of all kinds of viruses and bacteria. Since I have respiratory issues, it made since. I will continue to take the seasonal flu shot.
I have never had any side effects. Keep in mind that any medication can cause problems. Heck I cannot take asprin. I will not take the Swine Flu shot because I think the whole thing is media driven. More individuals die from seasonal flu becuae of the respiratory aspect of it. I think there is a rush to create fear among people. Instead of looking to the MSM for information, people should do their own research and speaking with their physicians.
Democrats reduced to promising not to kill old people. “I will never vote for a bill to kill old people, period.”: http://tiny.cc/N5f8M
I found all these posts to be extremely enlightening and helpful – to the extent that our knowledge of Swine Flu and its new vaccine is incomplete and, undoubtedly, flawed. I will continue taking seasonal flu shots and hope that my good fortune in avoiding anything more serious than a few cases of the sniffles prevails again this winter.
However, the minute GBS was mentioned in connection with the earlier flu vaccine (1970s) and now, possibly, with the Swine Flu vaccine, keep me FAR AWAY from it!! I was particularly interested in reading the variety of experiences that many who posted here have had or their friends or family members had with GBS. Currently, a dear person (and Associate Rector of a local church) is hospitalized at a major medical center for treatment for – and, we all fervently pray, complete recovery from – this dreadful and potentially deadly disease.
Our friend seems to have worse-case scenario: He has been hospitalized now for several months – maybe almost a year by now; but for several weeks, even months, after leaving ICU and before he was admitted to the excellent major facility where he currently resides, he was in a convalescent facility where he could at least start receiving therapy of sorts. And, in all this time (although we haven’t had an update for several weeks from the family member who had been keeping everyone current with his status & condition), as I understand it, he was virtually totally paralyzed – could barely move anything. I’m praying that his motor skills & mobility have improved somewhat by now, but I’ll have to make that call to the church to get an update.
It’s all so sad – as the person whose father eventually died after 33-1/2 YEARS of this living hell can attest – and frustrating when such a deadly virus enters the system: Sometimes there is precious little that can be done – at least not as fast or directly as we would want it to be. But again, it may be just a question of trade-offs: Is the potential benefit of the SF vaccine greater than its risk for GBS or any other form of flu, deadly or otherwise?
Interesting story in the news today Osteoporosis Drugs Effective in Killing Flu Viruses>
And now this:
A study concludes that there is “cause to hope for a more indolent pandemic course and fewer deaths than in many past pandemics“. “Examining records of 14 epidemics over the past 500 years found no consistent pattern of flu becoming more severe in subsequent waves.”
When the swine flu fails to become the new plague, watch the new alarm be how it disproportionately affects the poor.