Maynard’s overlong rant about Big Questions

What’s this about Stephen Hawking denying God? I guess maybe Maynard ought to step in and settle this issue. No, scratch that. Never mind what I ought do. I want to say something religious. It’s just that there’s a lot of social pressure these days stand silent on such topics. Unless you’re mocking them or evincing a false piety, of course. I feel more than a little awkward touching on the subject with serious intent.

Well, never mind my hesitation. I’m putting on my professional hat. In this discussion, my role is clinician rather than evangelist. Dammit, I matriculated at Starfleet Academy, and I’m qualified to offer my technical comments about the existence or nonexistence of a Creator. If you don’t respect the man (me, that is), then respect the sheepskin. As the wise woman once said, it’s just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I’d appreciate it.

On second thought, ignore my so-called qualifications. I’m sick of elite snobs pulling rank. I’m going to lay out a technical discussion with some hope of being broadly understood by mortals. The goal is to prove the existence of God. And to do it without getting touchy-feely. (This is not to suggest there’s anything wrong with a touchy-feely approach, which is widely favored. But that’s just not the way we do things at the Academy.)

We begin with the observation of our own existence. This was also the starting point of Descartes: “Cogito ergo sum” (“I think, therefore I am”).

We could end on that same question, because our own existence is the only thing we really know for sure. But going down the path of solipsism would make for a very short post, so I’m going to assume that the input of our senses is real rather than some sort of dream or Matrix-like simulation. I’m going to furthermore assume that the other players in our intertwined dramas are also real. Note that these assumptions cannot be tested; it’s just that we can’t prove them to be false. Thus we’re going to move beyond Me for just a moment.

You notice we’ve already strayed into the realm of Faith, and we haven’t even touched on God yet. Even the atheist walks in faith. Unless he’s a solipsist. (Now that I think of it, solipsism is a focused sort of narcissism. There simply isn’t enough room in the universe for both the narcissist and God.)

If we accept the world as being real, then it’s not a great leap to believe in science. That is to say, the universe is governed by consistent physical laws. Again, we can’t prove this, but the assumption seems reasonable. (I guess I should mention that it’s been recently suggested that basic physical laws seem to be changing, albeit slightly, across the universe. If this pans out, it will throw science for a loop. But I’m going to ignore this little diversion.)

Okay, let’s touch on some fundamental science. Isaac Newton laid out the basic laws of motion in 1687. His very first law was this:

A physical body will remain at rest, or continue to move at a constant velocity along a straight path, unless an external net force acts upon it.

Newton is observing that every effect has a cause. This simple statement has grand philosophical implications.

Specifically, a cause-and-effect universe is a clockwork universe. That is to say, every physical event is directly caused by some previous physical event. The universe should thus be viewed as an enormous mechanism, moving endlessly forward through its inexorable motions. Cause, effect, cause, effect, ad infinitum. The entire course of the future was determined from the very beginning of space and time.

In other words, Newtonians believed in determinism. This was not a matter of opinion or philosophy; it was (under the laws of science as they were understood) a provable fact.

Now we get back to Me (or, in your case, to You). Me (or You) inhabits a physical body which is subject to physical laws, just like everything else in the universe. We are therefore merely complicated collections of reactions to complicated collections of causes. We are part of the deterministic clockwork universe.

We are automatons. We do not have free will, and any perception to the contrary is illusory. We do not make choices.

Do you see the materialistic problem with free will? Free will is, scientifically speaking, an effect without a cause. Science cannot account for free will.

I’m still speaking from within the framework of Newtonian physics, which is no longer the final word on the matter. As we moved into the twentieth century, quantum mechanics (that is, the behavior of atomic and subatomic particles) was discovered. You know, electrons, protons, neutrons; that sort of stuff.

The weird thing about subatomic particles is they don’t behave as you would intuitively expect. The difference between particles and “big stuff” is like the difference between a ghost and a man. The particles are indeed weirdly ghost-like…they may be in two places at once, they may appear here or there or anywhere, governed only by statistical probability rather than by cause-and-effect. An electron, for example, isn’t like a little ping pong ball; it exists as a probability wave, impacting the universe by the probability of its placement here or there or wherever it might possibly be.

Again, the foregoing may sound like magic or nonsense or the supernatural, but it’s true. To study quantum physics, you have to throw away what you think you know and wrap your head around a paradigm that defies intuition. It’s a bit like accepting that the world is round, which you know is true even though your commonsense existence would have you believe the world is flat.

It took scientists a long time to accept how weird the world of particles was. They simply couldn’t believe the results of their experiments. Even Einstein didn’t accept it at first. (Einstein’s comment, which turned out to be wrong: “Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the ‘old one’. I, at any rate, am convinced that He does not throw dice.” It would seem Einstein was a determinist.)

The philosophical importance of quantum mechanics is that it destroyed the model of the universe as a deterministic machine. Cause-and-effect is the dominant force with respect to big stuff. But at its foundation, reality is unpredictable.

If the building blocks of the universe are ghostly, then how can the universe itself be in any way reliable? That question is answered by statistics. Subatomic particles are governed by laws of probability. To cite a real-world example… On a school day, it’s very unlikely that all the children are in their classes. Certainly a few are absent or not in place for any of countless reason. But school proceeds because, on the whole, a reliable percentage of children will be in their classes. On the whole, the school is a predictable place, even though the individual children may wander from their designated orbits. This illustrates how the big stuff — collections of large numbers of particles — are predictable, whereas individual particles are mysterious.

Have I lost you? This is a good moment to pause and make sure we’re clear on why I’m talking about physics. Physics is the discovery of natural law, right? And those of us that don’t live in The Matrix accept that natural law is real. Materialism is tangible. We can prove it. As opposed to God, which is something that would seem to be intangible, or at least at a high enough level of abstraction so as to be less tangible than, for example, your keyboard.

So we’ve been reviewing the building blocks of materialism and also contemplating the human creature, as exemplified by ourselves. And the question to answer is: Can the human condition, as we observe and experience it, be completely explained by natural law? Can we get from the material foundation (subatomic particles and/or waves) to the pinnacle of Creation (Mankind)?

There are two possibilities. Either our lives can be completely explained by nature (with the understanding that not all of nature is known to us, but we can nevertheless reasonably speculate about the parameters of any shadowy bits), or our lives cannot be completely explained by nature (meaning that we have solid reason to believe that nature, known or unknown, cannot completely explain life). In the former case, God would perhaps be (as has been famously suggested by the French mathematician Laplace) an “unnecessary hypothesis”. But in the latter case, if we are not 100% natural — even if we’re fully 99.44% natural and only a tiny smidgen of our existence defies natural law — then there is necessarily a supernatural aspect to our existence.

So what is it that makes Man as we observe him? Is it nature alone, or is it nature plus a dash of (to coin a word) supernature?

I will make a couple of critical technical assertions, which are the summary of what I’ve said here. Nature cannot account for:

  • Human consciousness — Consciousness is a complete mystery, and is undetectable and unmeasurable by any equipment, either existing or anticipated, nor can it be artificially reproduced. (We can detect brain activity, but that merely reveals electrical discharge, rather than the phenomenon of consciousness itself. We could likewise monitor electrical activity within a CPU chip, which would reveal whether the computer is on or off, but says nothing about its (presumably absent) state of consciousness.) As I said, we have no way of even knowing whether other people are conscious; it’s all just an assumption. If we should ever build a machine that we think might be conscious, there is no way we can know whether this is in fact the case. We apparently observe that consciousness is attached to a complex neurological system, but we have no idea why this should be. Why should atoms “come awake” when arranged in a complex configuration?
  • Free will — Physical law allows for cause-and-effect, and for quantum uncertainty. Physical law cannot account for free will, which would constitute an effect with neither causal nor statistical governance. To assert that human free will exists is to assert a supernatural force.

Some atheists with technical savvy acknowledge the foregoing. Such people will tell you that free will is an illusion and consciousness a mystery.

Thus I have made two fundamental assertions here:

  • The human characteristics that we subjectively observe are, in part, of mysterious origin and/or a contradiction of natural law. This indicates a supernatural element that is a component in the human equation.
  • By acknowledging the reality of his fellow humans, even the atheist is expressing his faith in a thing unproved and unprovable.

So I’ve asserted physical evidence of a supernatural force; that is, a force which transcends the material world. At this point I can use the word “God”, perhaps in its vaguest sense.

I’d like to go on and try to connect this transcendental force to the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. And I also have some odd theories about the mechanical interactions between the soul and the body. But this post is already far too long, so we must end here and withhold further enlightenment for another day.

Oh, and as a final note, feel free to take issue with any of the foregoing. I have no need to compel agreement on such abstractions. I just lay out the chain of reasoning that makes sense to me, and you can follow along to the same conclusion or you can decide I’ve gone off the rails. The question isn’t who is right but what is right. Together we shall figure all this out, time permitting.

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  1. ShArKy666 says:

    tammy…i’m not a great reader or scholar..but i have thought about these topics for some time now, so i’d like to add my 2 cents…if you don’t mind 🙂
    when i was very young, around 8 or 9, i asked the people around me, “who created god?”
    i mean…thousands of years ago, when mankind still walked the earth and no such things were around yet, things still existed….earth (about 4.6 bilion years old) the universe (about 12 or 13 billion, and counting) etc etc…but as someone who asked many questions, i’ve come to this conclusion, and i’ll run it by you to see what u think…after all WE are perceiving that gods may exist, so i think leaving out the psychological element of human perception is a big mistake when talking about such things like this.

    in order to understand how gods and such things were created, it seems like a good thing to understand human psychology, since the human brain is responsible for much creation on this planet…i think gods ARE a creation of mankind for a few reasons
    1) people (who didn’t know much about how things on earth really worked for many years) saw things happen around them which they didn’t understand, and made them feel small..
    2) people need to relate to powerful forces in nature in a more humanized form
    3) people needed to feel comforted, and more powerful
    4) people needed to create some kind of order and to explain things they observed

    that’s why, i think the greeks & romans, etc created gods…in order to represent those things, and in some sense….rationalize their observations. thus creating gods for most powerful forces they saw.
    even now, when people use the word pray….well i think it psychologically really means HOPE FOR…to feel more in control over those things which we really don’t have control over, and this also gives people comfort & a feeling of more power to have influence…
    when the gods of the ocean, lightening, the sun, and others were imagined, i think it was to rationalize, and represent those things in forms that people could understand.
    thus GOD nowadays, logically came from, or evolved from that same psychology, only it was a more complete entity…in order to explain how we all got here.
    don’t forget, when church had been preaching for many years that the EARTH was the center of everything (i believe narcissistically) galileo came around and proved they were wrong, and what did the established church do? they imprisoned him, and tried to have him killed, if i’m not mistaken…even in modern times, the church was disproven on so many other astronomical ideas, they started looking like fools, and so they hired their own astronomers to try and make sense of things.
    in any case, personally i do think that nature and how things work, IS a higher form of…..WHATEVER…but i don’t feel the need to insert a god into an unknown space ..i’m perfectly happy saying “i don’t know” until there is sufficeint evidence to prove things one way or the other..
    thanks for reading, and looking for ward to hear you on monday…woohooo 🙂

  2. metaphorsbwithu says:

    Inertia and determinism are strange creatures. Bodies in motion and bodies at rest are not always what they seem. Everything in the universe is “moving away” from everything else and yet each “object” feels it alone is at rest while everything is moving away from it. It follows that anything can seem both at rest and in motion depending on the frame of reference (as Einstein noted). Newton’s laws of motion, therefore, were correct but only to a point. But it begs the question. Why would “things” (assuming they exist, as you put it) act in such a way? Hawking would say because of the laws of physics … which, in his universe, apparantly existed before there was anything to be governed – uncaused. I think. Actually, I determined at quite a young age, while gazing up at the night sky, then looking at my little child hand that I was able to move whenever I wished it to, that there was most likely someone very smart and very powerful and very nice to bring this all about. And He or She built this creation correctly, I decided, because had He/She not done so, everything would have gotten all mixed up – and he created man to take care of that task, so they, in realizing our limitations, we would realize that we’re not the center of the universe. But then I always was a hopeless Romantic.

  3. Joel267 says:

    LOL great rant Maynard, I love it!

  4. Pangborn says:

    Maynard,
    Your rant is as brilliant and thought-provoking as always. However, I would humbly take issue with this one particular sentence: “Can we get from the material foundation (subatomic particles and/or waves) to the pinnacle of Creation (Mankind)?” I would argue that this is in itself Narcissistic. Shackled as each one of us is to the narrow prism of our own narrow perspective we cannot possibility see nor know the universe in its magnificent entirety in order to reach the conclusion that the creation of Mankind is anywhere near the apogee. This enormity, this unknowability, this cognizance at all times of all things seen and unseen is, by definition, the purview of “God” alone, or whichever word has been designed by the mind of Man to describe it. For Stephen Hawking or You or Me (now I am Me and you are no longer Me) to draw such conclusions is the natural by-product of the hubris that is unshakably yoked to our human brains, those squishy little atom-sized centers of unanchored consciousness cast adrift into the unfathomable and limitless oceans of the cosmos. For any puffed-up Man (not unlike the Me I think I am) to claim he knows precisely what is and what is not “God” deludes himself about the scope of his own microscopic powers of understanding which is, I believe, exactly what You are saying to Me and to all the other Me’s.

  5. larrygeary says:

    Theoretical physicists do their best work in their 20’s. Stephen Hawking is past his prime and hasn’t come up with anything new in a long time. His claim that “Assuming gravity, the universe can create itself from nothing.” is silly on its face, because once you assume the existence of gravity you are no longer working with nothing. I’ve seen no scientific explanation of the creation of the universe that doesn’t assume the pre-existence of something – spacetime, the laws of physics, other universes, etc. These ideas could be correct, but it’s legitimate to ask where these prior structures and rules came from. To say they always existed is unsatisfying. To say God did it is also premature, because that God-of-the-gaps answer can always be dislodged by future scientific discoveries. The problem for scientists is that once they admit that they cannot explain the universe without appeal to a realm outside the universe, they’ve admitted the possibility of a “supernatural”, and since it’s undetectable and unobservable, it could just as easily contain choirs of angels instead of 14-dimensional membranes.

    As Arthur C. Clarke once said, the universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine. The answers are likely too complex for human minds to solve, and if you think you understand it, your concept of the universe – and of God – is too small.

  6. Pat_S says:

    First Cause is the sticking point for both sides of the argument. If God created the universe, God is outside the universe. Therefore, understanding the physical laws of the universe will not necessarily prove or disprove God.

    I have no argument with atheists who have sincerely come to their position. I do have an argument with believers who feel they must foist their personal view of enlightenment on everyone. Nobody knows. Find your own path. There are decent people who don’t believe in God. There are heinous people who are outwardly pious.

    I believe in God but I think much of religion is childish nonsense. God help me if I’m wrong.

    • ladykrystyna says:

      Pat, you are a kindred spirit. I agree with you 100% on this.

      Whether a man believes in many gods or one neither picks my pocket nor does me harm.

      Thank you, Thomas Jefferson.

      😀

  7. varmint says:

    Nobody move! I have a quantum fine structure equation and I’m not afraid to use it! Give me your speckled puppies, NOW!
    I’m sitting this box of kittens right here in the doorway and I’m going to leave.
    The first one to move gets it.

    Power to the expansion of Pi!

  8. morecowbell says:

    It’s interesting that Hawking can believe in the existence of aliens and cannot believe in the existence of God… and yet quantitative scientific evidence for the existence of either does not exist. Hawking has faith, it is, like many modern scientists, misguided. Frankly, there is more money and accolades in promoting the existence of other worldly beasts than in the existence of a loving heavenly father.

    Here is what I have discovered in my decades of adventures into The Big Questions:

    As for free will and human consciousness; defining those two is like trying to define wet as a characteristic of water.. what is wet ? Simply, we are not bodies that have ‘souls’, we are souls that have bodies and using our bodies to understand our souls just does not work: It’s like a knife trying to cut itself. This is how folks get lost into spiritual navel gazing.

    Miraculously, the answer to the free will question was given to us mere humans a couple of centuries ago in quite a dramatic event:

    It is only by surrendering your will that you can find true freedom of the will.

    Aptly summed up in a quote by C.S. Lewis:

    There are two kinds of people: those who say to God “Thy will be done” and those to whom God says, ” All right then, have it your way”.

    I’m just saying… God and his Son are laughing at us right now… (-;

  9. DianeRoberts says:

    I’ve wondered if there is a God for many years. And, as much as I truly want to believe, I don’t.
    And, I do not believe in a devil.
    My reasons are as follows:
    Too many children are born to parents who DO NOT LOVE THEM OR CARE FOR THEM. And, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MEANT TO BE. No way!

    Too many starving people living under dictatorships without resources to nourish their weak bodies and minds. If there is a God, why not?
    I’ll never leave that MOST lying, thieving politicians believe in God..they’re too corrupt and evil to REALLY believe it. It’s a joke on the good.

    Honest, hard working people do not accumulate mass fortunes by being honest. Too many are corrupted scoundrels who believe when they’re dead..they are dead!

  10. RuBegonia says:

    Ant to human…. human to God? Sherlock Holmes: “”When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth..”

  11. ffigtree says:

    I love science and religion; both help pursue knowledge and truth. With this comes the study of and love of history. It is difficult for me to compartmentalize science, religion and history because I believe they are all intertwined. Sure there is conflict but they influence each other in ways beyond the rhetoric and oversimplification seen in today’s headlines.

  12. thierry says:

    “The question about the sky, the answer about a rope.”- sufi saying

    i tend to agree with sharky: the human mind seems geared to attempt to impose order and reason- no matter how stretched, poorly constructed or unprovable- on even the most unimportant , random happenings in the physical world from unexplained noises in the night (being ghosts) to what ‘makes ‘ the weather( your car and flush toilet overuse.) to god (everything from a tree to a cow to a cat to an old white bearded dude- endless really what that god thing is supposed to be to not being at all.).

    even those with profound psychological disturbances have reasons for what they do and explanations for what they perceive. they can often elaborate upon why they their delusions are real and make perfect sense- they seem desperate to make you see their order and right thinking. people are going to strive to see meaning even when there is none or where there are only hallucinations born of a troubled mind. even my cats impose a structure on their day, a way things are suppose to go along. if it’s strayed from they pretty much act out in a kitties in chaos melt down . emotionally they find safety and comfort in order.

    mind f from planet chaos is not something our human consciousness handles well at all. we like a tidy, explained world of routine-to live in our own contained and defined constructs. it is clear there is no such thing as a tidy universe for science to lasso and ultimately ‘ prove’ as much as any spiritual person can prove their deity definitively by co-opting the language and paradigms of the natural sciences. this is why religious leaders were so freaked out about the Galileos ,whose observations proved portions of the bible as written wrong. their power and their very concept of an ordered, explained universe was threatened, threatened enough for them to imprison, force retractions from and even burn people at the stake. there’s a drive to impose by both science and religion order even when substantiated through conjecture or outright provable error , all in a place where one can be smashed like a bug at any moment by absurd circumstance or calculated evil. the world or universe as a big, random distinctly unfriendly or perhaps could care less about humans place. humans both of the scientific and religious bents have put themselves at the center of all things, live in fear of it being proved otherwise, fighting their insignificance. it’s lack of control that’s being objected to- so they make up theories to explain how they understand how it all works or construct religions from their particular cultural points of view and prejudices to at least put some recognizable human-like consciousness in charge. and that’s what i feel is the height of human narcissism.

    ” Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment. Cleverness is mere opinion, bewilderment intuition.”- Rumi

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