A post by Pat
Why settle for a slice of the economic pie when you can get 1% of the world’s GNP for saving your own life?
We’ve all heard how the planet is doomed to catastrophic events of Biblical proportions because of human recklessness and greed, i.e., Western capitalists. (Pay no attention to the CRU scientists behind the curtain.) The big climate conclave is about to begin in Copenhagen. Despite the fact—don’t you dare try to deny it—that poorer nations will suffer most from climate change, they are holding out on an agreement to save the planet for the other precious green—money. Lots of it and paid upfront. There will be a bunch of financiers and industrialists looking to make some green too.
Copenhagen summit: It’s money that matters in the backroom talks
Vast sums will be needed to lubricate the settlement rich and poor nations must achieve to combat global warming. John Vidal considers the prospect of the biggest transfer of funds in history.
Ecology and morals count in the public arena, but as the negotiations progress and world leaders arrive to take the stage, money will dominate the backroom talks. It is likely to be the deal maker or breaker. Copenhagen may lead over the next 20 years to the largest transfer of money in history from the global north to the south, dwarfing the amount that developing countries now receive in aid.
Industrialists, financiers, bankers, business groups and carbon traders know there is much more in play at the Danish capital than a concern for the health of the planet. They all have a stake in the decisions made and see climate change as the driver of a global energy revolution and the chance to trade in technologies that could shift the world economy.
The developing countries have listened and learned from the bailouts and health care politics.
…developing countries say that rich countries must contribute at least 1% of their GNP by 2020. It’s not much, they argue, compared to what was found to stave off a global recession, and nothing at all compared to the eventual likely costs of ignoring climate change altogether.
But the total on the table is just one source of the deadlock. Rich countries insist that any money raised for climate adaptation or mitigation be channelled through the World Bank or the Global Environmental Facility. But these two New York-based institutions are perceived to be controlled by the rich. Instead, poor countries want a separate climate adaptation fund which would be administered by the UN. This they say, would give them an equal voice on how the money is spent.
With only a few days’ negotiating time left before the politicians arrive in Copenhagen, it is extremely unlikely that any financial agreement will be reached except on the broadest of principles. The danger is that the negotiations on who pays what to whom will not just stretch into next year, but will become intractable ‑ a cheque that never gets signed.
So is this the way the world ends, greed infects the poor and dooms the planet sickened by the greed of the rich? The history of the human race from the Garden of Eden to Tivoli Gardens. That would be Biblical.
How curious that it comes down to haggling over money, especially when the holdouts demanding money are the ones who will presumably suffer the most from climate change devastation. But no time to think about such things. We have to hurry and pay the Maldives 1% of the world’s GNP to keep polar bears off our front porches.
As more revelations of academic fraud by Global Warming researchers keeps coming out, we see it is all about money. A segment of the scientific community colLuded with politicians to attempt a takeover of large sections of the world economy through the auspices of Saving the World. We in industrialized nations are constantly getting beat up for our resource consumption, but the numbers don’t lie. Per capita useage is not the key. The U.S, E.U., and Japan make up half the GNP of the entire planet. Throw in China and India and you’ve got your list of who makes just about all humans need to survive. We don’t squander our resources watching MTV and drinking Starbuck’s, (for the most part), we make most of everything on the planet. From AIDS vaccines, to Ford pick-ups, to baby incubators, to jet planes, to Zamboni machines. The poor countries will always be poor unless they are given help to produce. Handouts to the Third World will always go to the same people who get the money now, corrupt politicians for the most part. If any agreements don’t address getting jobs to the Third World, these proposed handouts will be more good money after bad.
WAKE-UP, AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE ABOUT TO LOSE YOUR CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!
I announced my protest, the “DRIVE ON DC”, on the G. Gordon Liddy Show, this Morning (Mon).
19 April 2010, WA DC, 4PM, Thousands of Patriotic Americans driving on the bridges leading in/out of DC will SHUT-OFF THEIR CARS, and throw their keys into the river, or storm-drain!!!! This will PARALYZE THE CITY, and PERHAPS scare congress, just a little. I can be contacted at:
1. “[email protected]”
2. “Patriotgal1” on UtUbe.
Americans- I cannot do this alone!! I NEED your help. PLEASE contact me, if you love your country, and want it back. NO WHINERS, PLEASE!!!!
Oh- God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want her back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like Copenhagen is panning out to be to the world ecology/economy what the UN is to world peace, only more expensive and less effective.
Most of us agree America has dug itself into a pit, and we’re going to have to make sacrifices to dig ourselves out. Sadly, Obama’s just digging us deeper…more debt, more commitments to cronies and self-serving bureaucracies, less liberty. On this path lies catastrophe.
I see it differently. Why not use a tactic employed by the pirates in northern Africa during Jeffersons time? Lets get these countries including the europeans to pay us protection money. I am tired of being pushed around by people who we owe nothing. I don’t care what Noam Chomsky or Hugo Chavez say. America is the greatest force for good in the world and it’s time people recognize that. I’m reading “Empires of Trust” (forgot authors name) it is about the comparison between the United States and the Roman Empire. It basically talks about how the Romans just like america never set out to build a huge empire but because the could be trusted they ended up with one. Slowly these “conquered” people put increasing pressure on the Roman Empire to protect them while they did nothing. One very instructive story in the book is regarding a city in Italy during the Punic war with Hannibal. When Hannibal invaded this city saw the writing on the wall and took the Carthaginians side. Later when Haniball was on the run from Scipio Africanus the Roman troops went to that city and enacted a little “justice” on these people for not being loyal to Rome. A little while later these traitors sent an emisarry to the roman senate. Under normal circumstances these people should have been condemed by the senate but something strange happened. The emissary complained of abuse of the citizens by the Romans and Rome ended up paying THEM reparations. Sounds a little like Abu Graib don’t you think?
http://iceagenow.com/
Be sure to go into the “It’s a cycle, it’s a cycle, it’s a cycle” link, for audio, with author Robert Felix, climatologist Dr. Timothy Ball and meteorologist Joe D’Aleo.
Scary. My guess is humanity will see first the looming, “little ice age” (maybe 400 years?) blending right into the big one NASA says is starting now, (thousands of years). One has to do with diminishing solar output and the other has to do with how the sun and Earth are oriented to each other. As one of the experts said “very unfortunate for humanity.” Too ironic for me. Since onset can be a three year thing, even at 62, I might live long enough to see some nasty climate change.
Mammoths have been found that were “flash frozen” with trees, greenery, flowers around them, and in their mouths and bellies. Listen to the audio.
All the greenies jetting to Copenhagen are putting more crud into the atmosphere in one day than I’ve done in a lifetime. The hoax has now been exposed yet my pre-school President still plans to further gut our economy to solve a non-issue. I’ll start to listen when all the global warming sycophants of Algore pedal to work, fly coach, turn their thermostats down to 62, hang out their clothes on a line, put a wind generator in their back yard rather than mine, pave their rooftops with solar panels, drive a Prius, turn off the lights after 10pm, take a bus to go shopping, and if that doesn’t work, live in a cave, wear animal skins, kill your own food with pointed sticks, and invent fire. Until then, leave me alone. Us pesky, arrogant, little humans are no more destroying the climate than the cro-magnoids of eons past.