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Tammy,
I am always about 12 hours behind, I don’t really have a chance to listen to the podcast of your show until almost midnight. So, to comment on a segment of the Tues show, you were about tear into Alexrod took a couple of seconds and mellowed out, I am on a low salt diet myself, however, I do occasionally like to add a bit to things. Like you so perfectly stated be yourself, if you feel like letting loose go for it, I don’t think many if any TAMS would have been offeneded if you gave Mr. Alexrod a few choice words, that he totally deserves, keep up the fantastic work…
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http://is.gd/aXql4
That is all.
Doth quote the Paraffin Princessa: “It’s going to be very, very exciting. But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it…”
And lookie what came out: The Constitution Shredder!!!!!!!
I’m sorry, I was a big fan of Sarah Palin but seeing her campaigning for McCain, who will support Amnesty is beyond excusable. She doesn’t owe him anything, she did a lot more for his campaign than he did for her. I can only conclude that by supporting him, she also supports his policies.
She should be supporting McCain’s opponent who at least shares her beliefs. I will no longer support her will blog against her if she runs for any office.
I have the same concerns you do, barenaked, about Sarah. Can’t help but like her on a personal level but very disappointed she’s stumping for that jackoff McCain. I’m right with you on amnesty. Any politician promoting/endorsing amnesty, open borders, benefits for illegals (Pumpkinhead RINO Meg Whitman comes to mind) is worthless scum to me. Also, anyone that has any illusions that Sarah Palin has a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning the presidency better get the f**k off the crack pipe immediately!!
silly eggs.
You are starting to [sniff sniff] smell like eggplants.
JD must be doing pretty well for McCain to ask for her help. The sad truth is that JOHN McCAIN DOES NOT LIKE CONSERVATIVES . If he gets another 6 years he will go out of his way to poke his finger in our eyes. It must have killed him not to participate in the healthcare takeover. I will always root for Palin to do well just because of the affect she has on the Libs, but not this time.
Boy you two sound so liberal to me it’s funny:) Did you lick your finger and stick it in the wind? Or are you just doing what you are told:)
OMG! How incredibly accurate. I would have added the Ballerina, the Paraffin Princessa, and the Punch-Drunk Old Boxer as shadows in the background.
‘I can only conclude that by supporting him, she also supports his policies.’ – barenakedislam
Well, have you bothered researching her stand on various issues to see if that is the case? She does have a record as a mayor and governor.
There are some things they do have in common, but Amnesty is not one of them. She has stated in interviews she is not in favor of Amnesty. If you watched Greta tonight, you could have seen the expressions both McCain and Palin had when confronted with that question. McCain has done a complete turnaround on the issue because it’s an election year.
As for how Palin would get flak for not supporting McCain – how about from her own conscience? She genuinely respects his service in the military and in the Senate. Sure, McCain didn’t mind being disloyal to her, but she’s not that sort. Payback is something most of us would engage in; she’s not malicious nor is she interested in holding grudges. Think that has something to do with being a person committed to her faith. Think of how it would have appeared if she snubbed McCain. Sure, a lot of us would have loved it and even thought it was funny and deserved, but it does not translate well when the media is not on your side to begin with. Those in the GOP who do support McCain will be favorable to her in 2012 also. She will need them in 2012 along with the Independents and disenfranchised blue-dog Democrat voters who no longer have a home in the DNC.
I have a feeling many will find a ‘home’ with Sarah Palin for President in 2012.
Artgal, you make some good points, but I believe that her support for McCain (and some of his phony right wing pre-election positions) will hurt her with more Republicans than it will help her. I know it did with me and I was hoping for her to run in ’12. No more.
If McCain loses I wonder if his people will blame it on her? It wouldn’t be the first time.
I don’t agree that if McCain loses it’s a loss for Palin also. McCain will lose for being McCain. We understand why Sarah is supporting him.
McCain lost in 2008 due to a lackluster campaign (until Sarah) and being a RINO. You could even say Bush left the door wide open for a dishrag to beat whoever was the Republican candidate – and well, a dishrag certainly did win. Had Rudy Guiliani not been so stupid in the primaries, he would have been the candidate.
Palin’s success or failure is not due to McCain. The woman has her own history & record. She also has what no other GOP ‘hopeful’ has – a message that resonates with people. Her message is not a stupid, made-up ‘brand’ (as if our nation’s well-being is nothing more than a marketing tool); it’s a message that comes closer to Reagan than anything we’ve heard from any other politician since, well, Reagan!
I cannot stress to you enough how very real this woman is! After meeting her yesterday in Tucson, I can only tell you what you see on tv is magnified that much more in person. You can see how genuine she is when she’s standing right in front of you, looking you dead in the eye. She’s not a typical politician – she is definitely one of ‘us’ and that’s what will carry her through no matter what happens to McCain.
I recall Reagan lost some bids to be a presidential candidate before securing the nomination in 1980. I was 14 then and remember the media saying he was too old, not very sophisticated, would get us in nuclear war, blah blah blah. The elites and media hated him – sobeit. His message was for US, not for the self-serving idiots in DC.
There’s a reason we remember him as one of our greatest presidents – Reagan was one of us – just like Sarah Palin is!
As far as Sarah being “one of us”-that’s not true. The following three paragraph’s are excerpted from Wall Street Journal Online. It appears Ms. Palin is eye to eye with Johnny McAmnesty on immigration/amnesty, which is, no doubt, one reason McCain picked her as running mate:
“On immigration, however, Ms. Palin parts with the hard line of some tea party activists. As a candidate for vice president, Ms. Palin told Univision, the Spanish-language TV network, that she supported a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers.”
“I do, because I understand why people would want to be in America—to seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here,” she told the network. At the same time, she said she opposed “total amnesty.”
“That puts Ms. Palin closer to the position of Mr. McCain on an issue that will loom large in the Arizona primary. It also places her at odds with Mr. Hayworth, a leading opponent of the 2007 push by Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to create a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants while strengthening border security. Some tea party members and conservatives are still angry over Mr. McCain’s leadership on that effort.”
My bottom line: I will never support any politician who favors amnesty, open borders, benefits for illegals, etc., and now that includes “McCain-lite” Sarah Palin.
Sorry, but you should have checked out the entire interview, and a reminder – she toned down her stance in the Univision interview because she was the running mate of McCain at that time and was not going to rock the boat on him. The rest of that interview included this:
“Recently, it has been implied that Governor Sarah Palin supports amnesty for illegal aliens. This gets bleated by those who find
offense at her remark that she supports “a path to citizenship for illegals”. That does sound pretty damning all by itself.
If you suffer an accute case of PDS, you don’t even need this as an excuse to hate the governor, but if you are actually interested in the truth, a close examination might be in order. Also in order, a mention that these quotes were taken from an interview with Univision.
So, what else is in the Hotair story? Let’s take a look:
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules.
Looks like Governor Palin doesn’t support amnesty.
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
(Refer to the quote in your post)
Now, I know some people love to use this imply that Governor Palin supports illegal immigration amnesty. However, it is a long distance between letting illegal immigrants come to America (after they get in the back of the line behind everyone doing it legally) and supporting amnesty. A very long distance. ”
Laura Ingraham met Palin in 2007 and discussed immigration with her. Ingraham had this to say prior to Palin becoming the running mate:
“…And she’s not for comprehensive reform, I can tell you that right now. She’s sick to death of this immigration nonsense in the United States.”
On March 26, 2010, McCain and Palin were on Greta. Greta point blank asked them both, as they sat together, about their stands on immigration. Of course, McCain does not sound like he did in 2007 on this issue. The look on Palin’s face when the question went out was one of holding back. She was not going to engage on a level that would distract from McCain. Right after that question, McCain had to leave. Greta then asked Palin if there were issues she and McCain differed on. Palin was clever! She focused on what they did agree on. It was clear to me she was not going to use this as an opportunity to elevate herself. Quite frankly, she does not have to .
I have a gut feeling once the primaries in Arizona are over and JD Hayworth wins, we’re going to see Sarah stumping in AZ again. I think that’s when we’ll get the full dose of where she stands on immigration. She is not a supporter of McCain’s Amnesty; I do believe she wants to see people who truly want to be here to become citizens, contribute and make life better for themselves and for this nation able to do so. I also have no problem with making our process more efficient for people while also enforcing the laws we already have. That’s not Amnesty! Wanting to create a system where we continue allowing our borders to bleed is entirely unacceptable, and I do not see Palin supporting that at all.
Just because Palin is not ‘unleashing’ on this topic does not mean she supports McCain’s position. I recall that Dick Cheney bit his tongue, too. We’re hearing more from him these days and if he had been president instead of Bush, I think our nation and world would be much different today! When there is a President Palin, she’s not going to govern as McCain. Her record in Alaska already dismisses such thoughts.
I appreciate your lengthy and well thought out response Artgal. What’s “total amnesty” btw? Sounds like an opportunity for a sleazy politician to favor amnesty but not “total amnesty.” Frankly, it’s a moot point because Palin doesn’t have the horsepower to unseat Obama in 2012.
While it may be a victory for Palin as well if McCain wins, it will be a loss for the peopole of AZ. I don’t know much about this J.D. Hayworth, and no politician is perfect. He has an uphill battle against a long-time incumbent Senator. I would prefer fresh blood in the U.S. Senate. We need McCain and Graham gone. They want amnesty! BLEAH.
Lawmom90, I agree. And why not have term limits for congress and senate as well as the SCOTUS. There are enough incompetent people in Washington, without some of them growing senile too while in office.
Dogtown – the funny thing is this: McCain’s campaign blamed Sarah for his loss in 2008. If that was really the case, why was she chosen to stump for him in AZ now???
I mean, let’s face it – Palin is the reason McCain did not lose by 15% or more to Obama! The reason McCain lost is because he is McCain! Lots of people have said they love her, but did not like him – and he was the guy on top of the ticket.
So if McCain loses – yes, I’m sure there are some who will blame her, but it’s going to be hard to take them seriously.
McCain brought Scott Brown to Tucson the beginning of March. Granted, the venues were much smaller – there’s a reason for that: even with a new ‘star’ in the GOP, Brown could not bring the funding or numbers out for McCain. I saw it! Interestingly, yesterday’s rally in Tucson was a totally free event – and Sarah was definitely the draw! You would not get 4,000 people huddled on a Friday afternoon in the middle of the day in the desert standing for hours to see McCain! I would have been at work yesterday if it were not for Sarah coming to town.
from Ronald Reagans cpac speech 1985
But along with that, perhaps the greatest triumph of modern conservatism has been to stop allowing the left to put the average American on the moral defensive. By average American I mean the good, decent, rambunctious, and creative people who raise the families, go to church, and help out when the local library holds a fundraiser; people who have a stake in the community because they are the community.
These people had held true to certain beliefs and principles that for 20 years the intelligentsia were telling us were hopelessly out of date, utterly trite, and reactionary. You want prayer in the schools? How primitive, they said. You oppose abortion? How oppressive, how antimodern. The normal was portrayed as eccentric, and only the abnormal was worthy of emulation. The irreverent was celebrated, but only irreverence about certain things: irreverence toward, say, organized religion, yes; irreverence toward established liberalism, not too much of that. They celebrated their courage in taking on safe targets and patted each other on the back for slinging stones at a confused Goliath, who was too demoralized and really too good to fight back.
But now one simply senses it. The American people are no longer on the defensive. I believe the conservative movement deserves some credit for this. You spoke for the permanent against the merely prevalent, and ultimately you prevailed.
I believe we conservatives have captured the moment, captured the imagination of the American people. And what now? What are we to do with our success? Well, right now, with conservative thought accepted as mainstream thought and with the people of our country leading the fight to freedom, now we must move .
http://www.biblicalpatriot.net/HistoricSpeeches/cpac9.htm
Palin is over 1.5 million Face Book Fans!!!!
She has one less now.
Sarah Palin is undeniably where she is today popularity-wise because she was chosen for the national VP run with McCain. Whatever her political future, it is now off to an excellent start because of that. I would have thought less of her if she did not honor his request to speak on his behalf yesterday.
Sarah Palin damaged herself when she quit as Governor of Alaska, and when she endorsed McCain. Sales of her book fell off the face of the Earth particularly when she endorsed him. That should tell anyone what would hurt her more- failing to endorse McCain, or endorsing him. Clearly, her endorsement of McCain damaged her, and damaged her the most.
I respectfully disagree with you. Sarah Palin did not damage herself when she stepped down from being Governor. Her reasons were justified, and took into consideration what was best for the state, her family, and herself. Her continued popularity and her insightful appearances on Fox have proven this. Sarah has shown she is always true to herself, her opinions, and her decisions. By the way, I would be interested in knowing where you got the current sales figures for her book. I can’t seem to find anything published since December 2009.
BarbaraM: What’s it going to be like if Sarah Palin or any other candidate that we like decides that its too tough to fight smears, and just resigns in say… 2014 after winning in 2012? Sarah Palin could have set up and stayed with a legal defense fund to fight this nonsense…but she didn’t. This makes her too loopy for the higher office of President of the US…or she doesn’t know what she really wants. ..Keep in mind I’m playing Devil’s Advocate. I’d look for someone else conservative to run in 2012, and only run her if there is no one else worthier of a Presidential vote.
As for the NY Times, my statement is based on what I personally observed checking back week after week on the New York Times Bestseller List. The NYT (AKA ‘Fishwrap’) may have an archive that will show ratings of bestsellers to indicate when an author’s book has risen or declined; I haven’t found that yet.. Her book ‘Going Rogue’ was always in the top 5 for many weeks and only began to decline, as I noticed, after her intention to endorse McCain. I do not support Obama or his policies in any way, shape, or form;I despise them, and my despisal should be regarded as understatement.
Palin did not quit because it was, as you said, ‘…too tough to fight smears’; she left because in the process of fighting numerous frivolous lawsuits, she was not able to devote herself fully to the governorship – a job the people of Alaska paid her to do. Considering she is probably the first principled politician we’ve seen in a very long time, it’s a bit foreign to see a governor display an act of conscience in deciding to leave a post for which they were unable to fulfill their duty to the best of their abilities. She did have the people of Alaska in mind when she resigned. But hey – if we want to continue supporting people who fulfill their term, but deliver nothing for their constituents or use their time in office to make closed door deals, entertaining the mistress, or taking junkets to wherever with shrimp cocktail ice sculptures on Air Force One on your dime, keep voting ’em in as usual! And hey, there were plenty of ‘conservatives’ participating in wasting valuable time on the people’s dime – like Ensign and Sandford, but don’t worry – they’ll fulfill their terms.
‘Going Rogue’ was a number one seller for five weeks straight becoming a bigger seller than Glenn Beck & Dan Brown according to USA Today. Five weeks is a darn good run in the top slot! Eventually, it’s going to start slipping, so I do not see what the big deal is.
I do not agree that Palin’s book slipped due to her McCain endorsement at all. If that was the case, she would not be attracting the crowds as she is. McCain cannot get a crowd like that for himself – he even tried to when he brought Scott Brown out here for a fundraiser a few weeks ago. It was not a great showing in Tucson. Contrast that with the 4,000 who showed up yesterday mostly to see Sarah. No doubt, there were McCain supporters there, but Sarah was the real draw.
Artgal: As long as Palin campaigns VERY little for McCain she may have a spot for 2012. Sanford and Ensign did complete their terms in very sullied manners, but impropriety and term completion are not always (and ususally not) mutually inclusive. The bottom line is we conservatives like her fire, but if we are going to grab those that are now going against Obama, but who may have foolishly voted for him or went 3rd party out of frustration in 2008, they ARE going to look at this aspect about her. However, when (its no longer an ‘if’) things get worse, her (hopefully tepid) endorsement of McCain and her leaving Alaska as Governor for the reason cited may become moot-unimportant. So you and I may well be arguing over nothing in the end.
A very fitting tribute to Ms. Palin.
glwinch – I never said completing a term and improprieties were mutually inclusive; I merely pointed out Palin’s decision was principled and she didn’t waste the money and time of Alaskans as most others in politics do. Perhaps you would like to hear her reasoning from Mark Levin’s show this past November. She talks about her resignation about 12 min. in, but the whole interview is good to listen to as well:
http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1594123&spid=32364
I, too, hope Palin’s support of McCain is minimal. She did see ‘JD’ written on the palm of my hand in Tucson. I wasn’t the only one with it, but I was in the front row where she could see it. The look on her face was one of acknowledging that she understood I was there to see her and not McCain. Some of my friends were elsewhere (including outside) passing out literature on JD Hayworth. They even made it to national news outlets promoting our AZ-based group, Sarah Supporters For JD Hayworth. If there is footage from the front row of the Tucson event and the camera is scanning people in the front waving, look for the chick waving with her hand that says ‘JD’ in big, bold, black marker!
Artgal: OK
Re: Voyeur
You know, Tammy, I think a field trip is in order for any willing TAMS just for research purposes, of course. It is wrong on so many levels for Michael Steele to know something lesbian-related before any of us actual lesbians do. Oh, the humanity!
Yes, and us straight guys also demand to know how Michael Steele has been spending people’s money. Perhaps someone needs to go undercover and get some evidence of this lesbian dancing – such as, I don’t know, pictures and video, maybe. 😉
By the way, Kim Carnes had a hit song in the 80s called “Voyeur”. In case this scandal gets bigger, maybe it can be played during show breaks (if only because I like the song a lot).